ineedmorebase
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You should get a Zo2 and see how good it is
ZO2 plays real nice with the mixamp-- but my cans aren't hard to drive either.
No. An external DAC will take all duties from the soundcard, rendering it useless.
The ZO2 is a glorified equalizer. For headphones that don't need EQ, it is worthless. I've seen the charts. It doesn't help headphones with already pronounced areas in the spectrum. Overkill. I could see it working for balanced cans like the PC360 that doesn't have a pronounced ANYTHING, but it also makes it lose that balance that makes them special.
Unless others see themselves using bass boosts and eq, its unnecessary.
An external DAC may bypass the sound card's analog stage, but it sure isn't bypassing the sound card's DSP.
The question is what DSP effects will the sound card permit you to apply to S/PDIF-streamed audio. Xonar cards (possibly other C-Media-based cards as well) allegedly won't allow Dolby Headphone to be applied in this manner, but X-Fi cards will apply CMSS-3D Headphone and in-game EAX effects to S/PDIF streams, at least in theory.
I'm looking at picking up a cheap external DAC/DSP tomorrow and seeing how that works out. It's more for the consoles than anything, but it'll allow me to verify once and for all how X-Fi cards behave with S/PDIF output.
The ZO2 is a glorified equalizer. For headphones that don't need EQ, it is worthless. I've seen the charts. It doesn't help headphones with already pronounced areas in the spectrum. Overkill. I could see it working for balanced cans like the PC360 that doesn't have a pronounced ANYTHING, but it also makes it lose that balance that makes them special.
Unless others see themselves using bass boosts and eq, its unnecessary.
Sounds like you haven't tested it yourself and making guesses, it boosts the whole frequency range evenly (at the lowest setting) which doesn't result in pronounced areas getting more pronounced (as it's all about the balance of the frequencies), it results in a more dynamic/forward sound though but it won't make a bright headphone brighter. Plus it also enhances the soundstage/imaging/positioning, call it whatever you like slightly and does improve bass response quality except just making it stronger. So yes it's not useless even for a perfectly balanced headphone but it depends if you like forward/dynamic sound or not I suppose, most people seem to do but perhaps not those who really love a more relaxed / laid-back sound signature. ZO makes the music or gaming more engaging, you cannot sit still in your chair when enjoying your favorite music, you have to move along with it!
Hey guys, I'm glad I found this awesome thread. It's been very, very helpful!
So, I'm switching from Senn555 to Beyer990 250ohm, which I just ordered. I play on my PS3 (mostly singleplayer) and currently amping my Senn with an Ear Force DSS.
Will I need an extra amp for the Beyer? If so, I already have a FiiO7...I wonder if that'll do the trick. What do you guys think? And how do I connect all the stuff together?
Thanks in advance!
Sounds like you haven't tested it yourself and making guesses, it boosts the whole frequency range evenly (at the lowest setting) which doesn't result in pronounced areas getting more pronounced (as it's all about the balance of the frequencies), it results in a more dynamic/forward sound though but it won't make a bright headphone brighter. Plus it also enhances the soundstage/imaging/positioning, call it whatever you like slightly and does improve bass response quality except just making it stronger. So yes it's not useless even for a perfectly balanced headphone but it depends if you like forward/dynamic sound or not I suppose, most people seem to do but perhaps not those who really love a more relaxed / laid-back sound signature. ZO makes the music or gaming more engaging, you cannot sit still in your chair when enjoying your favorite music, you have to move along with it!
Hey guys, I'm glad I found this awesome thread. It's been very, very helpful!
So, I'm switching from Senn555 to Beyer990 250ohm, which I just ordered. I play on my PS3 (mostly singleplayer) and currently amping my Senn with an Ear Force DSS.
Will I need an extra amp for the Beyer? If so, I already have a FiiO E7...I wonder if that'll do the trick. What do you guys think? And how do I connect all the stuff together?
Thanks in advance!
Hey MLE, great to see you taking an active roll in this thread again. I'm looking to get a pair of closed cans so I can use them in the library and what not. I've heard you personally say the DT770's aren't all that great. What would be your optimal choice for a closed set of headphones? If they destroy the PC 360's, I may bother to use them but otherwise these will purely be for music listening. If an amp is required, i'd like to hear your opinion on that as well.
Anyone else can chime in too, i'm just the most familiar with MLE's taste in music due to this thread.
However, as stated before, there are plenty of people who don't like to alter the signature of their headphones. I'm one of them, other than altering the sound of horrible headphones like the XB500. Though that needs a a bass reduction, not a bass boost.