suicidal_orange
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Debian just gave me a "noob" slap in the face for doing something too noob-like - I think the underlyings are alive and well, minimal network installs usually get rid of the gaudy trappings.
At least those usual bootstrap-installers are simple to get the hang of - stuff like FreeBSD, or ultra-convoluted bootstraps like Bedrock and Aboriginal, those got on my nerves last week, and all I wanted to do was install the former to ZFS...
They're against propagating their existence, it made a huge stink a while back, as well as them leaving Gentoo land in bad taste. Not to mention they're in a constant state of development. If you do decide to install, keep in mind that there's little to no documentation (they're working on that, but the original intent was against documentation because they wanted you to talk it out with them and help develop). So why go Exherbo? Paludis and its build system is nicely integrated, a lot of the base system started from a blank plate, their ebuilds are...well...Anyways, it's there, it's fun to try, I kept to it, you might not, who knows.
Right now, I'm waiting for Alpine to fully move onto musl, playing around with Bedrock since Sabotage insists on not working.
There are so many things in this post that I have no idea what they are... I feel like a newbie despite using Linux almost exclusively at home for 10 years
I have nothing against "guady trappings" or "user friendliness" but when you have to create a config file to add a working Windows boot entry because the real config file gets regenerated everytime you update the kernel, and the friendly autoprober generates an invalid entry, I can't help thinking something's gone wrong. What's wrong with "kernel" and "kernel.old" symlinks and a static boot config? At the same time you get an ever growing collection of kernels on the system - are the newbies supposed to know they have to manually remove them? Then again maybe it's in the instructions, which I skipped... To me that seems like one of the more obvious things to automate, maybe keeping the newest 3 to ensure one will boot.
So are you going to get ostracised for advertising Exherbo or do they want more user/developers? It's an interesting marketing strategy - everyone wants what they aren't allowed! Their installation instructions are strange though. "We won't tell you how to do it, but please use this live CD with the alternate kernel else it wont work" - my first suggestion to them is to say what feature specifically is needed in the kernel - you can theoretically chroot from any system but does *this one* have a suitable kernel?
Having worked out that Arch didn't want to boot because I unplugged a USB stick (damn you UEFI!) I just updated everything, but cinnamon still crashes. I'm going to play with aur and see if that will yield a better desktop, if not I'll probably give Exherbo a try over the weekend.
Edit: cinnamon now works. Last thing I installed was gnome-menus2 from aur - do you still have your VM to test if it's all that's needed ? Makes sense that it would crash trying to open the menu at least...