Lets Talk Metal
Jan 19, 2014 at 4:28 PM Post #13,081 of 29,690
Ahhh, the temptation of going vinyl. It's such an investment to get it set up, and I don't even know if I'll find the authenticity (and extra $$$ for vinyl albums) worth the tradeoff of convenience of digital files. Like a tube amp, it's so alluring...
 
Jan 19, 2014 at 4:32 PM Post #13,082 of 29,690
I'm not sure how any metal fan could not notice large jumps in quality. Some other genres are less of a difference, but metal is pretty intense.

Although, vinyl is a HUGE money pit, so be ready for it.
 
Jan 19, 2014 at 6:56 PM Post #13,083 of 29,690
Maybe a big sigh?


Metallica sucks. Hard. How about that?

I'm sorry, I grew up with them, I understand their relevance, they used to be my #2 favorite band after Megadeth. I get it, I really do.

But these days, they suck, hard. It really is that simple.

Folks who post Metallica stuff yearn for the days of Ride The Lightening and Master of Puppets. Seriously.
 
Jan 19, 2014 at 7:15 PM Post #13,084 of 29,690
I'm not sure how any metal fan could not notice large jumps in quality. Some other genres are less of a difference, but metal is pretty intense.

Although, vinyl is a HUGE money pit, so be ready for it.

Sadly yes...I've been passively collecting vinyls for some time now in the hopes that one day I can afford a worthy setup haha but you are right, some vinyls just trounce their digital counterparts.
 
Jan 19, 2014 at 7:33 PM Post #13,085 of 29,690
Sadly yes...I've been passively collecting vinyls for some time now in the hopes that one day I can afford a worthy setup haha but you are right, some vinyls just trounce their digital counterparts.


Interesting... I was going to get the Moonsorrow mega vinyl release either way. Still not 100 percent sure if ill go full vinyl but your descriptions sounds tempting.
 
Jan 20, 2014 at 12:40 AM Post #13,087 of 29,690
For All Tid (1994)
Stormblåst (1996)
Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (1997)
Spiritual Black Dimensions (1999)
Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia (2001)
Death Cult Armageddon (2003)
Stormblåst MMV (2005)
In Sorte Diaboli (2007)
Abrahadabra (2010)
TBA (2014)
 
 
For anyone who cares, I just thought I would post a detailed review of the Dimmu Borgir studio output. I have had a long relationship with this music and hold it close to my heart.
 
1) Before " For All Tid" was the EP Inn I Evighetens Morke
 
This Ep sold out quick and put Dimmu in view of the small beginning Black Metal trend. If you go out and try to find all the rare EPs out there you will find the songs are a little different on the EPs. Some sound rerecorded, some sound remixed and some have different intros.
 
For most of us Stormblast is the really first and great record. The keyboard player did some major copycat stuff on the first keyboard intro. The record had some copy-write issues and hence was rerecorded in 2005 with-out the problem material.
Everyone has always talked about the bad sound-quality of 1996's Stormblast. The album really changed Black Metal, influences to countless musicians today. The 2005 had a great sound but failed, even with Hellhammer on drums, to bring the energy and vibe of the original to the present day.
 
For the metal world in general though the next album Enthroned Darkness Triumphant was the major release getting the band mainstream notice. I will post a song here for anyone who has not heard it. For many the sound was revolutionary.

 
 
The musical break right at the 1.23 mark shows the cyristallization of musical intent and maturity finally realized with the band. This album is really looked at as the start of an underground musical style going total mainstream. As the years passed we saw Dimmu Borgir go to fill large concert arenas and take Black Metal music to the masses.
 
This is the classic Dimmu that anyone interested should seek out first. The difference from Stormblast a year before is night and day as far as sound quality goes.
 
From here we go on to the golden age of Dimmu Borgir.
 
The next four full album releases are the greatest.
 
All these are also essential to the Dimmu Borgir fan. They are all modern sounding and are perfect!
 
2007..........  In Sorte Diaboli
2001.......... Puritanical Eurphoric Misanthropia
2003.......... Death Cult Armageddon ( The original vinyl release does not sound that great ) CD is the way to go here.
1999..........  Spiritual Black Dimensions
 
Besides finding their first Ep also the 1998 EP Godless Savage Garden is a great EP. Mainly for this song!
 
 
 
The above song is also released in somewhat different forms in For All Tid and first released in the 1994 EP Inn I Evighentens Morke. Also released as the 11th song in the Enthroned Darkness Triumphant release 1997 and undergone a full remaster for the Reloaded series released September 2nd 2008.
 
Goddless Savage Garden also released as part of the Nuclear Blast Reloaded series.
 
 
 Enthroned Darkness Triumphant was remastered with the original tapes and Nuclear Blast reproduced a great sounding CD, including a live video and bonus track in the Reloaded series of remasters.
 
 
So in retrospect we have a ten year window here. Dimmu Bogir has put out super quality from 1997 to 2007. They are going to release an album again this year. We hope it is a return to classic form, if possible?
 
Jan 20, 2014 at 8:35 AM Post #13,089 of 29,690
Maybe a big sigh?



Metallica sucks. Hard. How about that?



I'm sorry, I grew up with them, I understand their relevance, they used to be my #2 favorite band after Megadeth. I get it, I really do.



But these days, they suck, hard. It really is that simple.



Folks who post Metallica stuff yearn for the days of Ride The Lightening and Master of Puppets. Seriously.

 


My thoughts are closer to 'bond slaves to fame, fortune, and the corporate machine.' Or maybe, 'so deluded by fame that they think they are the ones who define good metal.' Lulu for example. Seriously??? The fact that they think it's a good album speaks volumes. "Challenging for our fans" according to Kirk Hammett... did they truly expect Metallica fans to like that crap?
 
Jan 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM Post #13,090 of 29,690
Great Dimmu overview...
 
Dimmu were one of the first BM bands I investigated. I've always liked Puritanical Eurphoric Misanthropia and Spiritual Black Dimensions. The overall seductive candelabra infused atmosphere and dark atmospheres are addictive. The symphonic elements feel just about right to me on those two. For me they add to the occultish Transylvanian soundtrack vibe IMO.
 
I stopped with  Death Cult. It's well done, but it feels too slick....more like a formulaic slasher movie rather than their previous releases that just feel more authentic to me- shivers up the spine inducing. It feels a little campy and over the top, but I guess you don't go  to Dimmu for subtlety
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Jan 20, 2014 at 11:04 AM Post #13,091 of 29,690
+1 markm1

Except I like the new dimmu stuff, probably for the same reason I love B-movies. Can't be so serious and kvlt all the time, and hey gotta love the evil dudes bringing hate to the masses (Watain, anyone?) even if it isn't the same as the old stuff
 
Jan 20, 2014 at 12:02 PM Post #13,093 of 29,690
  Great Dimmu overview...
 
Dimmu were one of the first BM bands I investigated. I've always liked Puritanical Eurphoric Misanthropia and Spiritual Black Dimensions. The overall seductive candelabra infused atmosphere and dark atmospheres are addictive. The symphonic elements feel just about right to me on those two. For me they add to the occultish Transylvanian soundtrack vibe IMO.
 
I stopped with  Death Cult. It's well done, but it feels too slick....more like a formulaic slasher movie rather than their previous releases that just feel more authentic to me- shivers up the spine inducing. It feels a little campy and over the top, but I guess you don't go  to Dimmu for subtlety
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That's a really good point. Death Cult is tons of FUN. Some people think symphonic BM is goofy....Black metal meets a Howard Shore LOTR soundtrack. But, it totally works for me.
 

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