[Music Alchemist]

  Funny enough, I own albums from all three of those artists LOL. I was a bigger fan in the early 2000's. This is definitely the better side of goth.

 
heh, well, they're pretty popular so I'm not surprised.

 

[vipervick]

   
heh, well, they're pretty popular so I'm not surprised.

And I like Christina Scabbia. She is very active on social media. I would love to see Lacuna Coil live some day.

 

[Redcarmoose]

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Any person that spent time with the 1st 1973 KISS record will see Ace is wearing the exact jewelry from that era.  I think Gene sang this song on HotterThan Hell?

 

[wrathzombie]

  And I like Christina Scabbia. She is very active on social media. I would love to see Lacuna Coil live some day.

I saw them live few years ago

 

[Music Alchemist]

  And I like Christina Scabbia. She is very active on social media. I would love to see Lacuna Coil live some day.

 
Yep, she's pretty cool. I always wanted to be in a band with at least one female member.
 
During lunch in high school, I used to hang out at this stairway with a girl, and we decided to form our own rock band. We called it Stairway Club as an obvious reference to our hangout. lol. It wasn't a real band, though; just us hanging out in her room practicing guitar and bass. XD
 
A metal band I was in later on sort of had a female member, but not in the musical sense. She was the girlfriend of one of the members and just hung out with us when we practiced at a recording studio late at night, and supposedly did background work for us or something. By the time that band started performing live, I wasn't in it anymore. Although I was the lead guitarist, I was more like a session member, and didn't get involved with the fights some of the members had with each other.
 
Crazy thing: The time I went to see In Flames (along with Killswitch Engage and As I Lay Dying) live in 2004, my mother organized with other mothers (or something like that) to bring a few other people to the concert with us...and two of them ended up being the rhythm guitarist and bassist of the metal band I was in! Had no idea until I got in the car and they were right next to me. Apparently the bassist's mother was a fellow teacher. One of my closest friends came as well. In the middle of the concert, he picked me up so I could be seen above the audience, because they were filming lots of the concerts to be featured on the DVDs that ended up being called Used & Abused: In Live We Trust. Too bad that concert wasn't featured...

 

[markm1]

Picked up up Hammer Fight-Profound and Profane and Fleshgod Apocalypse-KIng new CDs.
 
Printed lyrics. Hmmm. Some bands print lyrics, some don't. Some extreme metal bands lyrics are irrelevant, the vocals are just another instrument and the words may not be that important. But, clearly King has a very specific concept. There's a message they want to share.
 
Query. Why do metal bands print lyrics in the liner notes with font styles and sizes and that are impossible to read? Sure, you can print from the internet, but what's the point in printing if they are illegible?   Just sayin'

 

 

[Redcarmoose]

  Picked up up Hammer Fight-Profound and Profane and Fleshgod Apocalypse-KIng new CDs.
 
Printed lyrics. Hmmm. Some bands print lyrics, some don't. Some extreme metal bands lyrics are irrelevant, the vocals are just another instrument and the words may not be that important. But, clearly King has a very specific concept. There's a message they want to share.
 
Query. Why do metal bands print lyrics in the liner notes with font styles and sizes and that are impossible to read? Sure, you can print from the internet, but what's the point in printing if they are illegible?   Just sayin'

 

Those art-farts love fonts. Art directors for CD lables love fonts, thus they slip under the radar. IMO
 
1st World Problems...........
 
 

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Query. Why do metal bands print lyrics in the liner notes with font styles and sizes and that are impossible to read? Sure, you can print from the internet, but what's the point in printing if they are illegible?   Just sayin'

 

 
Metal is already an elitist form of music. The aesthetic experience packaged with the music is simply an extension of that. It adds to the mystique of it all.
 
The reasons for the medieval font thing should be obvious, in the context of black metal. As for other fonts and genres, that depends, I guess.

 

[sludgeogre]

   
Metal is already an elitist form of music. The aesthetic experience packaged with the music is simply an extension of that. It adds to the mystique of it all.
 
The reasons for the medieval font thing should be obvious, in the context of black metal. As for other fonts and genres, that depends, I guess.

Yep, on point. The musicians I've talked to are just into that aesthetic. They don't even really notice or care that people can't read it well, they already get told that people can't understand them. Sometimes I think it's all a big joke with some of them, while others you can tell are extremely serious about their design choices.
 
We metalheads are an interesting lot.

 

[Redcarmoose]

[VIDEO] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9l4JEElNPAg [/VIDEO]


.......more art.

 

[markm1]

  Yep, on point. The musicians I've talked to are just into that aesthetic. They don't even really notice or care that people can't read it well, they already get told that people can't understand them. Sometimes I think it's all a big joke with some of them, while others you can tell are extremely serious about their design choices.
 
We metalheads are an interesting lot.

 Yes, I get that. Like Redcar said, this is not a 1st world problem- income inequality, peace in the middle east, printed metal lyrics? 
 
OTH, Bands encourage fans to purchase their music. We hear how bands get screwed on Itunes purchases and streaming. If I can find a new CD on Amazon around $10.00 I'll gladly spend the money.
 
I know this is kind of a silly tangent, but just to say....if I'm buying another gore/Satanic themed album. Hail Satan, disemboweled corpses. Who cares? Plenty of unoriginal, goofy or generic lyrics.
 
 But, w/ some extreme metal, deciphering the lyrical meaning can add to my appreciation...that's all. Even something like Carcass, there's a lot of wordplay and technical writing.  Their lyrics are pretty clever. Many extreme artists lyrics (for me) work as an anchor or give the structure that make abstract sound make more sense-DSO, Gorguts. All those melodeth existential lyrics. The dark poetry of Opeth, all those mythical Norse plotlines, obscure gnostic occults, etc., etc.
 
So, with a band like Fleshgod; they've been on my radar, but I've never listened to them. Positive review's, I streamed the album, liked the sound and picked up the album. Clearly a lot of thought has gone into the concept. There's a story. Each song seems to be from a different character or viewpoint.  Meticulous integration of orchestration, extreme, clean and operatic lyrics. Shakespeare put a lot of thought into his words, too and didn't print them for his audiences. But, the words were spoken, not growled.
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but if I plunk down a few $, and there's a clear artistic literary message, I'd like to be able read the dang lyrics. Rant over. On to world hunger and global warming.

 

[sludgeogre]

 

 Yes, I get that. Like Redcar said, this is not a 1st world problem- income inequality, peace in the middle east, printed metal lyrics? 
 
OTH, Bands encourage fans to purchase their music. We hear how bands get screwed on Itunes purchases and streaming. If I can find a new CD on Amazon around $10.00 I'll gladly spend the money.
 
I know this is kind of a silly tangent, but just to say....if I'm buying another gore/Satanic themed album. Hail Satan, disemboweled corpses. Who cares? Plenty of unoriginal, goofy or generic lyrics.
 
 But, w/ some extreme metal, deciphering the lyrical meaning can add to my appreciation...that's all. Even something like Carcass, there's a lot of wordplay and technical writing.  Their lyrics are pretty clever. Many extreme artists lyrics (for me) work as an anchor or give the structure that make abstract sound make more sense-DSO, Gorguts. All those melodeth existential lyrics. The dark poetry of Opeth, all those mythical Norse plotlines, obscure gnostic occults, etc., etc.
 
So, with a band like Fleshgod; they've been on my radar, but I've never listened to them. Positive review's, I streamed the album, liked the sound and picked up the album. Clearly a lot of thought has gone into the concept. There's a story. Each song seems to be from a different character or viewpoint.  Meticulous integration of orchestration, extreme, clean and operatic lyrics. Shakespeare put a lot of thought into his words, too and didn't print them for his audiences. But, the words were spoken, not growled.
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but if I plunk down a few $, and there's a clear artistic literary message, I'd like to be able read the dang lyrics. Rant over. On to world hunger and global warming.

 
Totally agree with you as well. Some bands have fantastic stories woven into their music. Arkaik has two albums about a whole universe the vocalist has created, it's rad. I generally go to dark lyrics for looking stuff up, but yeah a lot of extreme metal bands aren't going to be on there, and in that case it would be nice if they would just make their lyrics legible. It's not like they're being super original with their dumb fonts.

 

[markm1]

   
Totally agree with you as well. Some bands have fantastic stories woven into their music. Arkaik has two albums about a whole universe the vocalist has created, it's rad. I generally go to dark lyrics for looking stuff up, but yeah a lot of extreme metal bands aren't going to be on there, and in that case it would be nice if they would just make their lyrics legible. It's not like they're being super original with their dumb fonts.

Exactly! I go to Dark Lyrics too, sometimes.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  All those melodeth existential lyrics.
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but if I plunk down a few $, and there's a clear artistic literary message, I'd like to be able read the dang lyrics.

 
Soilwork's lyrics are so...ambiguous and metaphorical.
 
Don't worry: people like me type up the lyrics and publish them on Metal-Archives! Even obscure bands have lyrics available there.

 

[markm1]

   
Soilwork's lyrics are so...ambiguous and metaphorical.
 
Don't worry: people like me type up the lyrics and publish them on Metal-Archives! Even obscure bands have lyrics available there.

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