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Originally posted by Sweet Spot
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| Not really the "same thing." |
Actually Mac, it is. Because I said, I don't want all songs and playlists loaded, so that leaves that option out. The second option is closer, but how exactly are they selected playlists, unless YOU select them ? Or is there a mystical link between iTunes and its users ? And the third option, is EXACTLY the same. |
The topic of discussion was option #2, auto-syncing selected playlists. As others have already pointed out, they aren't the same thing at all.
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| But as I said up above, one of those methods are a big no no for alot of people, I being one of them. The second method is pretty much the same as choosing a playlist to drag and drop from Explorer, and the third, assuming we're still following the 3 methods you mentioned, is exactly like dragging and dropping, except it's just clicking a button instead. Same time consumption. |
But again, you haven't used iTunes, so you really don't seem to understand that the above isn't accurate. The second method (syncing selected playlists) is quite different than dragging and dropping a playlist via Explorer because iTunes' playlists aren't just lists of songs -- they're intelligent, auto-updating "search results," basically. And the third option ("manually" managing songs) is much more powerful. Sure, you can just click and drag from a list of songs. But you can also use scripts and automated actions to select/deselect particular groups of songs, and you can use Smart Playlists to select them -- so you get the advantages of Smart Playlists combined with manual management. Also, iTunes' browse mode lets you select artists/albums/genres/etc., even when manually managing. It's much more convenient and powerful than the "drag and drop" management you get via Explorer.
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| My fault there. I could use the excuse that it must've been tiny print cuz i didn't see that. But then, I wouldn't think it necessary to install QT in order for iTunes to work, which I'm sure it doesn't. Nice marketing by Apple. |
iTunes uses QuickTime for both AAC *and* MP3 decoding. iTunes requires QuickTime to function. It's not "marketing." Why should Apple have to recode a bunch of stuff when they can simply use what is arguably the best, and at least one of the better, media systems on the market?
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| I do admit fault there though. Had I seen that, I wouldn't have even bothered to install iTUnes in the first place. I use Media player Classic (not a windows product) which has both the QT and Real player codecs. |
It doesn't have the latest QT codecs.
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| No. I dont' have a hate for all things Apple. But comparitively speaking, there are so many better choices/options presented to PC'rs. Even some of my friends who are MACr's agree after seeing some of my Video apps. |
Such as? I find it hard to believe, having used both XP and OS X, that there are so many better options on the Windows side. What kind of "video apps" are you talking about? Perhaps your friends just don't know about the ones available for OS X?
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| On top of that, they're insulted that they'd have to PAY for the QT pro, when it really should be freeware. I didn't say that...they did. Their reasoning. |
Bad reasoning; better known as "whining"
(Seriously, Apple users are some of the biggest whiners I've seen. They always want stuff for free and forget that it costs money to produce products.) Why should QuickTime Pro be freeware? That doesn't make any sense. The basic QuickTime package lets you do playback, etc. QuickTime Pro is an actual editing/encoding system. In addition, it lets you produce products using commercial codecs, which requires a license. How can it be free?
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| I think (note I said I ok ?) it's silly to have to sit and rate every damned song for the sake of future use. Playlists are the easiest thing in the world to create, takes a couple minutes. So what if the song you rated as a 5, becomes boring to you in a couple of weeks ? Isn't it true that it will play those tunes that you rated highly more often ? Wouldn't you tire of those songs pretty quick ? Human nature I'd think. Like a song you keep hearing on the radio. |
I still think that the above is a case of not having used it enough to realize what you might use it for, but fine, you don't like it.
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| Believe me. I used it long enough to know what I did and didnt' like. It doesn't take me very long to figure things like that out. (what I like and dont' like that is) I mean, is there a pre-requisite to how much time one must spend with a product in order to deduce whether or not they like it ? |
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use it. Not liking one initial setup step is not grounds for judging an entire product. According to your post:
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| Upon initial install of iT, it asked if it was to scan my HD for music folders, which I thought was cool...but when I opened it, there was no music to be found. Ok...no prob, I just assumed there'd be a button to scan my HD. No dice..just the standard "add file/folder" button. Looked for a folder, hit the button, and boy...was that the longest load time I've seen ever. I didn't bother to really go any further because really, I have no use for iTunes. |
I'd say the above is nowhere near enough of an experience to "know" if you don't like a product or not, regardless of how quickly you form opinions.
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| Funny how when someone has an opinion about a Apple product that Apple users don't like to hear, they're automatically branded a basher, and a bad example to follow. |
It has to do with the fact that, as bangraman and blessingx have pointed out, you seem to always criticize Apple products without even having used them -- and I consider your experience with iTunes to be "not having used it" -- and you tend to criticize/dismiss anything that you personally don't immediately see a use for.
