[bmoregnr]

Does anyone have experience to answer which one of XR or SR is more like the Hf5? I am all for a little more bass than the ER4S I used to have, but I'm not looking for too much of it. Any thoughts on which way I should head since I cannot easily a/b them.

 

[luisdent]

Does anyone have experience to answer which one of XR or SR is more like the Hf5? I am all for a little more bass than the ER4S I used to have, but I'm not looking for too much of it. Any thoughts on which way I should head since I cannot easily a/b them.

In my opinion the er4sr is closer to the hf5. The hf5 isn't identical to the er4sr/er4s in response, but it has essentially the same "non-boosted" bass and slightly boosted upper mids.

The er4xr is a touch more bass and smoother upper mids than the er4s/hf5.. The er4sr would be more like the hf5. To my ears, the hf5 (it's been a while, but graphs back this up) sound a bit less refined than the er4s/sr. The highest treble is a bit less airy and just less transparent. But overall, the tone of the whole earphone is very similar...

The xr is definitely something special. It "may" not be the most critically accurate, but I'd be hard pressed not to recommend it generally as the best earphone ever made. The er4sr is something I'd recommend for people who already prefer the er4s and are happy with the bass because they find it is perfect. If you don't think the er4s bass is practically perfect in quantity, the xr is the way to go. It isn't "that" much more bass, but it is more and sounds really good. And the overalls mids and treble are barely affected by the bass boost. I'd say they aren't even affected at all really, except that the overall tone of the entire sound is a bit more laid back just slightly.

 

[Francisk]

To me, the HF5 is more similar to the ER4P than the ER4SR....YMMV

 

[luisdent]

To me, the HF5 is more similar to the ER4P than the ER4SR....YMMV

Yeah, the treble is sort of between the p/s. He just asked about the s, but that is something to note if he's heard the p.

 

[bmoregnr]

Thanks for the help everyone.  Here are my thoughts on what I should do.  While I really like the Pono > Cardas EM5813 in balanced mode, it is spooky holographic and immersive, very natural sounding; but there are plenty of times when it is just too boomy, and that is even with a not great seal.  I don’t  have a ton of experience, but it feels in my gut the Pono doesn’t play very well with IEMs.  Plus there is the battery life thing.  Anyway I do love that very mid-range centric natural and darker Pono sound (certainly some would note the rolled-off treble, but its very analog feel works for me); and having had the ER4s before, and the Hf5 now with a phone>dragonfly, I think I might try to shoot for a more fun, less analytical, don’t overthink it sound.
I am going to pair one of these with the Fiio x5ii, and it seems if I want a bit more of the target sound I noted above, I should head to the XR; unless I am not correctly reading what people are saying about these two new offerings.

 

[luisdent]

Thanks for the help everyone.  Here are my thoughts on what I should do.  While I really like the Pono > Cardas EM5813 in balanced mode, it is spooky holographic and immersive, very natural sounding; but there are plenty of times when it is just too boomy, and that is even with a not great seal.  I don’t  have a ton of experience, but it feels in my gut the Pono doesn’t play very well with IEMs.  Plus there is the battery life thing.  Anyway I do love that very mid-range centric natural and darker Pono sound (certainly some would note the rolled-off treble, but its very analog feel works for me); and having had the ER4s before, and the Hf5 now with a phone>dragonfly, I think I might try to shoot for a more fun, less analytical, don’t overthink it sound.


I am going to pair one of these with the Fiio x5ii, and it seems if I want a bit more of the target sound I noted above, I should head to the XR; unless I am not correctly reading what people are saying about these two new offerings.

I am very critical and i still love my er4xr

 

[riodgarp]

Is er4sr has 'dry' signature like mc3 does?

 

[qsk78]

Is er4sr has 'dry' signature like mc3 does?

Never heard the mc3 but I would not call the SR dry.
With a silver cable, yes, it sounds more “analytical” and it can be called “dry” especially in the low end. This is what I personally prefer.  

 

[riodgarp]

Never heard the mc3 but I would not call the SR dry.
With a silver cable, yes, it sounds more “analytical” and it can be called “dry” especially in the low end. This is what I personally prefer.  

I mean dry is when I saw on their website and some dude tell that er4sr has extended treble, I had er4s modified into er4p (and added adapter if I wanna listen into 4s again) so I don't know how er4s really sounds.

 

[8BitKid]

Is there any news on a balanced cable for the ER4SR/XR's?

 

[qsk78]

  Is there any news on a balanced cable for the ER4SR/XR's?

I use custom 2.5 mm TRRS balanced cables. Here is just one of them:
 

 
The main challenge here is  45 (135) degree connectors.

 

[8BitKid]

  I use custom 2.5 mm TRRS balanced cables. Here is just one of them:
 

Any recommendation on where to buy them? I thought that the ER4SR/XR's had a slightly different take on the MMCX connector.

 

[qsk78]

 
Any recommendation on where to buy them? I thought that the ER4SR/XR's had a slightly different take on the MMCX connector.

This is made by one local guy in Moscow. Now he is trying to replace straight connectors on Silver Dragon which is challenging because of a silver core. Let's see. 

 

[ClieOS]

Finally picked up a pair of SR. Happy day.

 

[ER4S]

Finally picked up a pair of SR. Happy day.

 
Enjoy with it. Looking forward for your review and comparison with S.