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Thats what Im talking about all the time.
I'm also anxious to find out what that BAT 55SE sounds like from the good DR.
Though if you're looking at Nelson Pass amps, the general consensus I've heard from people I generally trust is that First Watt is a better proposition for the HE6 than Pass Labs.
Does the Dark Star not sound good with other headphones? That's a shame. I would have thought it would be awesome with all orthos.
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I have a question.
If the first watt is so important and much more important than the rest of the watts. Why is pure class A more desirable? Why not just get a good quality Class A/B amp. With these amps at least the first few watts are class A. Also much more affordable (at times).
There's some interesting discussion on Audio Asylum and other communities about the portion of an class AB amp operating in its class A region. That said, overall, it seems like a lot of people say the class A amp has better linearity and lower distortion than class AB. I can't recall ever hearing or reading a single person say that they preferred a class AB amp over a class A, given relatively even design and component quality. Class A is a better way to go if you want a no compromises approach, as the HE6 is not about the quantity of power (beyond a reasonable point), but quality of power, hence the positive commentary associated with Threshold, Aleph, and First Watt amps.
Update on the HE-6/BAT VK-55SE combo.
A gorgeous pair of the aforementioned HiFiMANs are now in house and resting comfortably in their zippered bag. The Mills resistors are scheduled to be delivered by UPS on Monday. Brian from BTG ordered some bananas which should arrive at his shop within the next few days, so it's still looking like a couple more weeks before I can begin the process of running in. Wish I had more excting news to report but "good things come to those who wait". In other words, I am attempting to excersize a degree of patience.
Go Cards!
Got it. Take a look at this amp. The guy Kingwa said in a email it's a pure Class A amp.
This is what he said.
"In the old standard they are class AB. The Master 2 working at 16W class A and Master 3 working in 8W class A
In the new standard since 2001 , they are without switch distortion so they are class A.
Kingwa"
But nowhere on the spec sheet does it say that. I was wondering if I overlooked it. I don't understand what he means - because they are with out switch distortion they are class A.
Any thoughts.
http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master-3/Master-3EN.htm
There's some interesting discussion on Audio Asylum and other communities about the portion of an class AB amp operating in its class A region. That said, overall, it seems like a lot of people say the class A amp has better linearity and lower distortion than class AB. I can't recall ever hearing or reading a single person say that they preferred a class AB amp over a class A, given relatively even design and component quality. Class A is a better way to go if you want a no compromises approach, as the HE6 is not about the quantity of power (beyond a reasonable point), but quality of power, hence the positive commentary associated with Threshold, Aleph, and First Watt amps.
Lyr + HE-6....I think it does indeed run out of dynamic peak capability despite sounding relatively good. It sounds good, sounds musical, but ultimately sounds like an HE-500
So what your saying is, is that it sounds better?
Has anyone tried pads other than the ones from Head Direct? I've been thinking of using the D7k pads for these for some added comfort as the D7k was one of the most comfortable headphones I've owned.
LOL.
I'm saying compared to my power amp, it ends up lacking details even though it still sounds musical. But I'm also saying that it's not what I originally theorized that Lyr is undetailed and that it was a performance issue rather than a power issue. The fact that HD800 reveals Lyr to be pretty detailed after all shows that the odd missing details with HE-6 is purely a power equation after all. It has sufficient power to keep the bass up and not sound thin, but insufficient power to handle the sustained current + the voltage swing reserves for the dynamics, ultimately smearing over detail in the process.....however if there's nothing else available to run it on, Lyr does actually sound pleasant with HE-6...it just doesn't bring it to it's strengths over cheaper models as well as more power does.
Has anyone tried pads other than the ones from Head Direct? I've been thinking of using the D7k pads for these for some added comfort as the D7k was one of the most comfortable headphones I've owned.
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