[sardar17]

  These are some of the worst set of measurements I have ever seen. 

Same comments were made by tyll on innerfidelity.

 

[DJScope]

This is proof here that bad measurements don't translate to bad sound. The Havi B3P1 are some of the best IEMs I've heard, and are the best neutral/flat sounding IEMs I've tried, period.

 

[ZapX629]

Yep, when listening to a full sweep or looking at a graph, these are noticeably imbalanced, but in regular use they sound just great. 

 

[Ruben123]

When put to mono its also audible quite easily.

 

[DJScope]

  Yep, when listening to a full sweep or looking at a graph, these are noticeably imbalanced, but in regular use they sound just great. 

 
I also notice a bit of distortion at frequencies below 30Hz and above 20kHz when sweeping in SineGen. Anyone else notice this. It sounds like a very faint high pitch ringing. 

 

[yoztpetra]

Guys, I'm suffering from horrible female vocal sibilant from my Havi B3 pro1.
I bought this thing used. The clarity is insane, soundstage is expansive, everything is perfect... almost.
 
for some recording, the treble can be sooooooo harsh, peaky, and the vocal can be sibilant.
for example the most obvious ones are Beat It by MJ. the sibilant is almost unbearable..
 
I thought this IEMs is not sibilant at all? I had Hifiman RE0, Superlux HD669 which both are bright sounding. I also have Takstar TS671 on my possession which is flat sounding much like the havi but since it's full sized, I guess I can't compare but stil...
I'm pretty confident that I'm fine with bright sounding headphones/iems,  but man this sibilance is killing me. it's so horrible.
 
Driving it from DX50, high gain.
any help? I read about something in the review that some users complained about grittiness after certain hours of burn in.. could this be it?
 
but since it's an used iem when I bought it, I expected it to be fully burned in. I'm so confused right now. I have never heard IEM that can produce instrument like this before in this price range, it blows out my RE0 day and night. I can even hear instrument I've never heard in RE0, how CRAZY is that?!

 

[Midgetguy]

  Guys, I'm suffering from horrible female vocal sibilant from my Havi B3 pro1.
I bought this thing used. The clarity is insane, soundstage is expansive, everything is perfect... almost.
 
for some recording, the treble can be sooooooo harsh, peaky, and the vocal can be sibilant.
for example the most obvious ones are Beat It by MJ. the sibilant is almost unbearable..
 
I thought this IEMs is not sibilant at all? I had Hifiman RE0, Superlux HD669 which both are bright sounding. I also have Takstar TS671 on my possession which is flat sounding much like the havi but since it's full sized, I guess I can't compare but stil...
I'm pretty confident that I'm fine with bright sounding headphones/iems,  but man this sibilance is killing me. it's so horrible.
 
Driving it from DX50, high gain.
any help? I read about something in the review that some users complained about grittiness after certain hours of burn in.. could this be it?
 
but since it's an used iem when I bought it, I expected it to be fully burned in. I'm so confused right now. I have never heard IEM that can produce instrument like this before in this price range, it blows out my RE0 day and night. I can even hear instrument I've never heard in RE0, how CRAZY is that?!

Not sure what issue you might be having. I haven't gotten much sibilance at all unless I run super high volume, which I wouldn't anyway cuz I'd blow my eardrums at that point. But I don't have any MJ music, though I haven't encountered any sibilance in any of my Maroon 5 songs.
 
On a different note, I have returned to my B3s, admittedly by necessity. I think the left ear of my Fidue A83s died

. I hate the B3s nasty power habits in comparison to the A83s, but in terms of SQ, the only major thing I'm missing is the beautifully rich bass. The A83s I think are incrementally better than the B3s in most areas, but is it so much that the B3s sound revolting in comparison? Absolutely not, not by a long shot. When compared to something literally 4x the price , the fact that the only thing I'm really missing is what's always been said to be a little deficient in the B3s demonstrates just how good these are. They're easily still my benchmark IEM considering they're not only very good but very affordable.

 

[yoztpetra]

 
Not sure what issue you might be having. I haven't gotten much sibilance at all unless I run super high volume, which I wouldn't anyway cuz I'd blow my eardrums at that point. But I don't have any MJ music, though I haven't encountered any sibilance in any of my Maroon 5 songs.
 
On a different note, I have returned to my B3s, admittedly by necessity. I think the left ear of my Fidue A83s died

. I hate the B3s nasty power habits in comparison to the A83s, but in terms of SQ, the only major thing I'm missing is the beautifully rich bass. The A83s I think are incrementally better than the B3s in most areas, but is it so much that the B3s sound revolting in comparison? Absolutely not, not by a long shot. When compared to something literally 4x the price , the fact that the only thing I'm really missing is what's always been said to be a little deficient in the B3s demonstrates just how good these are. They're easily still my benchmark IEM considering they're not only very good but very affordable.

This unnecessary treble harshness is killing me, like.. really... horrible.
The weird thing is that I went to the local store on the other day, and the pro one sounds extremely good in my memories.
It sound less airy than hifiman RE400, more closer to the warmer sound than the RE400 and the low mids were extremely detailed.
 
I don't know what happened, but when I got my own havi b3 pro one arrived at my front door, it sounds so harsh in the upper vocal area and very, very noticeable. I mean, it's okay with The Eagles but when I listen to Michael Jackson it's so painful to bear. it's exaggerating the "TSSSSSSH" horribly even I who loved bright sound signature paused the song and choose another song to play that has no vocals like instrumental/piano/orchestra.
 
I don't know man, I don't remember it sounding like this when I tried it at the store.. this is so weird, maybe i've got a faulty product?

 

[Brooko]

Personally I don't hear any sibilance on my B3 Pro 1s - but that just may mean you are more sensitive to it.
 
Couple of things:
 

• IMO burn-in isn't going to do anything to them.  I had a well broken-in pair (borrowed) and my brand new pair arrived while I still had them.  So I volume matched and blind AB'ed them. Couldn't tell a difference.
   
• Sibilance is in the recording - it either has it or it doesn't.  Headphones will mask it to an extent - but they won't create it unless it already has the potential to exist in the recording. Understanding that helps.
   
• Sibilance occurs most commonly between 5kHz and 9kHz.  Your DX50 has EQ - so why not play around with lowering the bands between 5-9kHz (you'll have to play around a bit to pinpoint exactly where it is occurring.  It is an ideal solution - no cost.

 

[yoztpetra]

  Personally I don't hear any sibilance on my B3 Pro 1s - but that just may mean you are more sensitive to it.
 
Couple of things:
 

• IMO burn-in isn't going to do anything to them.  I had a well broken-in pair (borrowed) and my brand new pair arrived while I still had them.  So I volume matched and blind AB'ed them. Couldn't tell a difference.
   
• Sibilance is in the recording - it either has it or it doesn't.  Headphones will mask it to an extent - but they won't create it unless it already has the potential to exist in the recording. Understanding that helps.
   
• Sibilance occurs most commonly between 5kHz and 9kHz.  Your DX50 has EQ - so why not play around with lowering the bands between 5-9kHz (you'll have to play around a bit to pinpoint exactly where it is occurring.  It is an ideal solution - no cost.

1. That might have just killed my hope on keeping this IEM
 
2. That is true because the sibilance is tolerable in some other song. However the funny thing is that when I tried it at the store, I wasn't aware of this sibilance problem(for me) at all.That shouldn't be the case because I'm quite picky in soundstage, imaging, midrange clarity, vocal's character(natural, thick, whether sibilance or not, etc) and treble extension. I  can't believe I didn't cring when I listened to it the store.. I'm sure there's something wrong. Even when you guys saying that there's no sibilance at all. This is pretty annoying. I've heard ER4b and ER4s(or p, I forgot) with adapter to make it brighter sounding. Even with that the sibilance isn't something like THIS.
 
3. I've played with EQ actually, weird thing is that I even tried turning down every single EQ bar available one by one while keep the other dead flat. The sibilance is still harsh no matter what.
it's funny because I've even tried to tuned down the treble that it sounds very bloated, but the sibilance is still there though reduced by tiny bit
 
I'm gonna leave it playing get lucky by daft punk hoping that I might get lucky and the vocal will smooth out a little bit..
 
this is like the most delicious cake I've ever dreamed of, and on someone placed an orange on the top of it.
not that orange will make anyone's cake less delicious, but I'm allergic to orange.

 

[Brooko]

  Even when you guys saying that there's no sibilance at all.
 
I've played with EQ actually, weird thing is that I even tried turning down every single EQ bar available one by one while keep the other dead flat. The sibilance is still harsh no matter what.
it's funny because I've even tried to tuned down the treble that it sounds very bloated, but the sibilance is still there though reduced by tiny bit

 
Maybe there just isn't any sibilance apparent in the tracks we commonly listen to?
 
If you're not able to fix it with EQ, and it's causing you major irritation, then I'd definitely switch to a new IEM.  The Havis aren't for everyone.  No headphone is.

 

[yoztpetra]

   
Maybe there just isn't any sibilance apparent in the tracks we commonly listen to?
 
If you're not able to fix it with EQ, and it's causing you major irritation, then I'd definitely switch to a new IEM.  The Havis aren't for everyone.  No headphone is.

nooo!!! the midrange is very detailed, slightly warmth hint giving it the delicate smooth sound.
excelent soundstage, great imaging, onpar or even better than Shure's own SE215 spe.
Timbre sounds natural, extended very well and detailed.
Bass is excelent, tight and detailed. Not bleeding into midrange.
even the vocal position is very good, and it sounds natural.
 
but why, why. Why is the upper vocal so harsh?
I don't know where to go now.. my live feels empty now.

 
Seriously, I'd switch my DAP to reduce this IEM's sibilance.

 

[sardar17]

  nooo!!! the midrange is very detailed, slightly warmth hint giving it the delicate smooth sound.
excelent soundstage, great imaging, onpar or even better than Shure's own SE215 spe.
Timbre sounds natural, extended very well and detailed.
Bass is excelent, tight and detailed. Not bleeding into midrange.
even the vocal position is very good, and it sounds natural.
 
but why, why. Why is the upper vocal so harsh?
I don't know where to go now.. my live feels empty now.

 
Seriously, I'd switch my DAP to reduce this IEM's sibilance.

 
I can confirm that havi has 0000000000 sibilance,,,,not one iota.
U may have a bad set.
 
If  u think havi has treble peaks then try gr07

 

[yoztpetra]

   
I can confirm that havi has 0000000000 sibilance,,,,not one iota.
U may have a bad set.
 
If  u think havi has treble peaks then try gr07

I've heard that there are different batch of Havi B3 Pro1 ?
 
one comes with small box and another one with bigger box. I've also heard that they do sound different.
 
is this true?

 

[Brooko]

  nooo!!! the midrange is very detailed, slightly warmth hint giving it the delicate smooth sound.
excelent soundstage, great imaging, onpar or even better than Shure's own SE215 spe.
Timbre sounds natural, extended very well and detailed.
Bass is excelent, tight and detailed. Not bleeding into midrange.
even the vocal position is very good, and it sounds natural.

 
I can understand that you like it - but really, the SE215 is actually quite a bassy IEM (the antithesis to the Havi), so not sure if I'd be comparing the two.  And there are other IEMs out there, which will be relatively cheap, easier to drive than the Havi, and won't give you your sibilance issues. For some good suggestions - tell the participants in this thread what your problems are and ask for some suggestions.  A lot of them specialise in budget gear.  You should get some good suggestions.
 
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but why, why. Why is the upper vocal so harsh?

 
Its just the way they are tuned.  And remember, not everyone will be hearing this like you are.  Again - you seem to be hyper-acute to high frequencies in the sibilance range
 

I don't know where to go now.. my live feels empty now.

Seriously, I'd switch my DAP to reduce this IEM's sibilance.

 
Seriously?  Get some suggestions for a different earphone and sell the Havis.  It's not a "real world" problem.  Perspective!