Zanth
SHAman who knew of Head-Fi ten years prior to its existence
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The fact is...those patents...held by Grado were based on inventions by John Chaipis and John Grado. John Chaipis still works at Grado, how then is there no technical know-how?
You can think for yourself, I'm fine with that, but you are basing your "evidence" on nothing. That is what is irking me. And that evidence when stated as such implicates John Grado as a liar which is slanderous and libelous that is what I can't stand. We have Aaron who has seen the place and has talked with John. I've talked to John, they have been doing the headphone gig now for 20 years and I'm supposed to buy into "evidence" that lacks any substance? Seriously, show me real evidence, one iota of proof and I'll cave. I'm a lawyer by trade. I love evidence. Right now I have it and you don't, what you have is a hallow argument based on fluff. Moreover you are indirectly accusing John Grado et. al., of lying to the public. That sucks not just because one person should never do that to another but because Grado Labs supports our community etc., it sucks to read that oh this so called evidence really does support some obscure alternate reality factual data
Yes, in the end the sound is what matters, I'm 100% on that bandwagon but you and I both know that Grado gets more heat than any other manufacturer (think RA1 alone) and so, any indication that the drivers are these mass produced items from China just fuels the fire of those thinking the phones are overvalued etc.
There are a few facts, hard facts that can be claimed:
1) Grado drivers were made in house, Joe perfected his driver
2) John tweaked the HP1000 driver creating the current line
3) Chinese manufacturers can clone anything and they do it without blinking
4) John stated the drivers are all made in house and when I asked I made sure to emphasize "assembled vs. manufactured"
5) Folks ahve seen the Grado Labs and talked with John too, and they have the same info
6) any theory contra to the above implicates John as a liar, if a liar about his drivers, what else is he lying about
I could go on but I don't think I need to.
You can think for yourself, I'm fine with that, but you are basing your "evidence" on nothing. That is what is irking me. And that evidence when stated as such implicates John Grado as a liar which is slanderous and libelous that is what I can't stand. We have Aaron who has seen the place and has talked with John. I've talked to John, they have been doing the headphone gig now for 20 years and I'm supposed to buy into "evidence" that lacks any substance? Seriously, show me real evidence, one iota of proof and I'll cave. I'm a lawyer by trade. I love evidence. Right now I have it and you don't, what you have is a hallow argument based on fluff. Moreover you are indirectly accusing John Grado et. al., of lying to the public. That sucks not just because one person should never do that to another but because Grado Labs supports our community etc., it sucks to read that oh this so called evidence really does support some obscure alternate reality factual data
Yes, in the end the sound is what matters, I'm 100% on that bandwagon but you and I both know that Grado gets more heat than any other manufacturer (think RA1 alone) and so, any indication that the drivers are these mass produced items from China just fuels the fire of those thinking the phones are overvalued etc.
There are a few facts, hard facts that can be claimed:
1) Grado drivers were made in house, Joe perfected his driver
2) John tweaked the HP1000 driver creating the current line
3) Chinese manufacturers can clone anything and they do it without blinking
4) John stated the drivers are all made in house and when I asked I made sure to emphasize "assembled vs. manufactured"
5) Folks ahve seen the Grado Labs and talked with John too, and they have the same info
6) any theory contra to the above implicates John as a liar, if a liar about his drivers, what else is he lying about
I could go on but I don't think I need to.