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Jun 14, 2012 at 11:12 PM Post #346 of 9,589
But is the tube on the ebay link a 5998 or a 6as7?
 
Jun 15, 2012 at 12:38 AM Post #347 of 9,589
Because of the history with 6520 tubes, it is difficult to know for sure.  Normally you would be sure it was a 5998 by the plate style if not for this, but the 6520 was known to use both 6AS7 and 5998 style plates.  So your tube could be a 5998 or a 6AS7G electrically.  You've found something rather unique.  I think the most likely explanation is that for whatever reason the tube was made as a 6520 but ended up being branded as a 6AS7, possibly during quality screening.  The 6520 was a premium version of a 6AS7G.
 
The answer should come from listening to the tube.  The 5998 has a different sonic signature from any 6AS7G tube.  It also has higher gain.
 
Jun 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM Post #348 of 9,589
Here is a 50's Tung-Sol 6AS7G Black Plates, Steel Grid Posts
 

 
 
Here is a 60's Tung-Sol 6AS7G Black Plates, Copper Grid Posts
 

 
 
I like the both but the RCA 6AS7G is my reference tube.
 
Jun 15, 2012 at 4:28 AM Post #349 of 9,589
Hmm then I guess mine is probably a mistake given your pics xp Good thing is no matter if its a Tung sol 6as7g or the 5998, they are both a nice sounding tube, right?
 
Xcalibur you mentioned the 6520, and that it is electrically a 6as7. So I can still use that tube on my DV336 correct?
 
Jun 15, 2012 at 4:51 PM Post #350 of 9,589
Yes, you certainly can.  They are quite rare though.
 
@ rosgr:  I do enjoy the RCAs, they have a very lovely warmth that reminds a person why they got into tubes in the first place.  At the end of the day, though, they are too sloppy in the bass and a little veiled sounding for me, as pleasant as they are tonally.  What the Tung Sols bring to the table is transparency and better signal control.
 
Jun 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM Post #351 of 9,589
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Yes, you certainly can.  They are quite rare though.
 
@ rosgr:  I do enjoy the RCAs, they have a very lovely warmth that reminds a person why they got into tubes in the first place.  At the end of the day, though, they are too sloppy in the bass and a little veiled sounding for me, as pleasant as they are tonally.  What the Tung Sols bring to the table is transparency and better signal control.

I would agree with this statement as it mirrors my experience with the Glenn amp.
 
Jun 24, 2012 at 2:53 PM Post #352 of 9,589
Is anyone aware of fake/counterfeit GEC 6080WA or 6AS7 tubes? I'm being offered two at a decent price from a seller in Hong Kong but the phrase "decent price" doesn't naturally occur next to "GEC" :lol:
 
Jun 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM Post #353 of 9,589
It could be that they are some other tube that has been relabeled. If you can, get a picture and post it here.
 
Jun 24, 2012 at 4:54 PM Post #355 of 9,589
Those sure look like the real deal to me.
 
Jul 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM Post #356 of 9,589
Jul 25, 2012 at 11:20 AM Post #358 of 9,589
I got me a pair of strong 5998 and Sylvania 7236's.
 
Maybe even a pair of 421A. But my wallets has a max, so I hope I don't get outbid. :wink:
 
Jul 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM Post #359 of 9,589
Everyone remember - the WE 421A is just a rebranded TS 5998.  EXACT same tube.
 
Jul 25, 2012 at 1:34 PM Post #360 of 9,589
Aside from slightly higher amplification factor and transconductance.  This is probably why people sometimes think they sound better, because they'll be just a tad louder at the same volume than a 5998.
 

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