[audio123]

  Does isolation on the FLC8s can hold a candle against Westone or Shure iems?
 
To me isolation is more important than sound (cause it's health in the long run).

well the sound is 1000% superior to westone and shure iems except shure kse and westone ciem series

 

[elfary]

  Get an Etymotic.

 
If FLCs isolation can match that of Shure SE846 or Westone W30 then it will stick to my standards. No need to go Etymotics but i don't won't to get less isolation than those two in ears that i have at the moment.

 

[elfary]

 
well the sound is 1000% superior to westone and shure iems except shure kse and westone ciem series

 
Even if that hyperbolic statement was true if isolation does not meet my demands i don't care about the sound.
 
Truth to be told above certain sound quality threshold (that SE846s and W30s surpass with ease) i don't care too much about sound. I am slaved to the music no to the sound.
 
Hence that's why i ask if isolation matches that of current Shure SE and Westone W series.

 

[ezekiel77]

   
Even if that hyperbolic statement was true if isolation does not meet my demands i don't care about the sound.
 
Truth to be told above certain sound quality threshold (that SE846s and W30s surpass with ease) i don't care too much about sound. I am slaved to the music no to the sound.
 
Hence that's why i ask if isolation matches that of current Shure SE and Westone W series.

 
Had the 846, isolates better than the FLC8.

 

[elfary]

   
Had the 846, isolates better than the FLC8.

 Thanks mate. That's the kind of info i was looking for.
 
I hate to fight ambient noise with the volume knob. The less SPL i need the longer my hearing will remain as pristine as it is.

 

[audio123]

Even if that hyperbolic statement was true if isolation does not meet my demands i don't care about the sound.

Truth to be told above certain sound quality threshold (that SE846s and W30s surpass with ease) i don't care too much about sound. I am slaved to the music no to the sound.

Hence that's why i ask if isolation matches that of current Shure SE and Westone W series.

well isolation is subjective. Depends on your ear canals mate.

 

[elfary]

well isolation is subjective. Depends on your ear canals mate.

 
I am a bit wary abour FLC8 isolation because Joker mentions in his review that high volumes there is some leakage due to the fact that the earphones are vented.
 
 
It's a fact that some in ears isolate better than others. Nobody could ever argue that Shure SE846s isolate way more than a pair of Vsonic Gr07s. I mean a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of SE846 will be way more isolated than a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of Vsonic Gr07s.
 
So i don't buy the idea that all in ears isolate the same and it just depends on the user. Sorry!

 

[audio123]

It's a fact that some in ears isolate better than others. I am a bit wary abour FLC8 isolation because Joker mentions in his review that high volumes there is some leakage due to the fact that the earphones are vented.

well flc8s fits me better but this is subjective.

 

[thatonenoob]

Did some walking around in the wind today...boy was it noisy!  Definitely cannot recommend these in windy conditions.

 

[Paulus XII]

I think isolation is above average, despite some seal issues with dual flange tips, but thats the cost you have to pay for better sound. Obviously this depends of each ones ear canals.

 

[elfary]

  Did some walking around in the wind today...boy was it noisy!  Definitely cannot recommend these in windy conditions.

 
So does wind noise find its way into the bass port?
 
That's a deal breaker since i stroll down the city quite a bit and it's windy at spots.

 

[ajaxender]

Its not terribly bad but noticeable if the wind is strong enough - or with consistent flow like when cycling.
 
To not blow things out of proportion, it has isolation close to average for vented IEMs, maybe slightly above with a reasonably deep fit, and is affected by wind as much as a typical IEM with outward facing vents. Hardly the best or worst in either of these categories. I wouldn't buy it if either of those factors were more important than sound quality - which may well be the case with an IEM, to each their own. 

 

[Flcforrestwei]

   
I am a bit wary abour FLC8 isolation because Joker mentions in his review that high volumes there is some leakage due to the fact that the earphones are vented.
 
 
It's a fact that some in ears isolate better than others. Nobody could ever argue that Shure SE846s isolate way more than a pair of Vsonic Gr07s. I mean a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of SE846 will be way more isolated than a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of Vsonic Gr07s.
 
So i don't buy the idea that all in ears isolate the same and it just depends on the user. Sorry!

I don't think the bass hole can cause the isolation issue, because these is a filter on the plug, another filter on the speaker, and then a diaphragm in the speaker, the three layers can isolate the noise completely.
 
The cause is the eartips, because the bore of the earphone is big, the tip of the eartips is blut, so the eartips can not be inserted as deep as Shure's, but I think if ear channels are big, the eartips can be insert deeper, FLC8s still can get a good isolation.

 

[shotgunshane]

I am a bit wary abour FLC8 isolation because Joker mentions in his review that high volumes there is some leakage due to the fact that the earphones are vented.


It's a fact that some in ears isolate better than others. Nobody could ever argue that Shure SE846s isolate way more than a pair of Vsonic Gr07s. I mean a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of SE846 will be way more isolated than a person who manages to get a good fit on a pair of Vsonic Gr07s.

So i don't buy the idea that all in ears isolate the same and it just depends on the user. Sorry!

Innerfidelity measures isolation. Here you can see the SE846 and W40 both isolate better than the twice vented FLC8S. It's most obvious in the bass frequencies:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FLCTechnologiesFLC8CCYVocals.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE846WhiteFilterSample2.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/WestoneW40.pdf

 

[Flcforrestwei]

Innerfidelity measures isolation. Here you can see the SE846 and W40 both isolate better than the twice vented FLC8S. It's most obvious in the bass frequencies:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FLCTechnologiesFLC8CCYVocals.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE846WhiteFilterSample2.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/WestoneW40.pdf

Both SE846 and W40 are with small bores, if we compare the eartips, we'll find that 864 and W40 eartips are cuspidal and FLC8s eartips are blunt, the cuspidal eartips can make the contact area with the ear channel bigger, so they can get better isolation, I think that's the reason.