Earsonics SM64: The Impressions Thread
May 23, 2013 at 4:56 AM Post #436 of 1,656
Hmm now I really want to see measurements of a diffrent pair, made by another person.
 
May 23, 2013 at 6:29 AM Post #438 of 1,656
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Can a SM64 owner do some sine sweeps to find out if there really is such a big notch at 5 kHz?
 

Just downloaded sinus sweeps from like 5 different sources.

Oh man, I really can hear a big dip at 5 khz. That is....not cool.

I own the SM64 for almost half a year now and I never noticed that....
Maybe because they still sound pretty good to me. Oh well, what am I doing in this forum if I can't manage to hear something odd like this? :D
 
May 23, 2013 at 7:14 AM Post #439 of 1,656
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Just downloaded sinus sweeps from like 5 different sources.

Oh man, I really can hear a big dip at 5 khz. That is....not cool.

I own the SM64 for almost half a year now and I never noticed that....
Maybe because they still sound pretty good to me. Oh well, what am I doing in this forum if I can't manage to hear something odd like this? :D

Maybe you didn't notice because your brain got used to the SM64. I think we should A/B it with other good IEMs such as the ER4S and then it will be easier to figure out something weird. 
 
May 23, 2013 at 8:20 AM Post #440 of 1,656
I own the SM64 for almost half a year now and I never noticed that....

Maybe because they still sound pretty good to me.


That's because they DO sound pretty good. Pretty darn good, for that matter. But, who needs ears, when there's... wait for it... measurements! *gasp*

*sigh* Thanks, Inks. Goodbye thread...

P.S. Please stop the incoherence schmincoherence nonsense. Unless you have a faulty unit on your hands, or your ears are simply other-worldly, the SM64 just isn't incoherent. Though I'm willing to bet suddenly, post measurements, many listeners will begin to pop-up and claim otherwise.
 
May 23, 2013 at 8:30 AM Post #441 of 1,656
That's because they DO sound pretty good. Pretty darn good, for that matter. But, who needs ears, when there's... wait for it... measurements! *gasp*

*sigh* Thanks, Inks. Goodbye thread...

P.S. Please stop the incoherence schmincoherence nonsense. Unless you have a faulty unit on your hands, or your ears are simply other-worldly, the SM64 just isn't incoherent. Though I'm willing to bet suddenly, post measurements, many listeners will begin to pop-up and claim otherwise.

I really don't plan to throw them away now :-D
I'm loving every minute I spent with them!
It's just really surprising to me that this graphs are actually more or less true and that I never noticed this "problem".
So people keep on posting graphs and whatnot, I'm happy with the sound I get. (and i think I will be even more when I get my Fiio X3)
 
May 23, 2013 at 9:01 AM Post #442 of 1,656
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That's because they DO sound pretty good. Pretty darn good, for that matter. But, who needs ears, when there's... wait for it... measurements! *gasp*

*sigh* Thanks, Inks. Goodbye thread...

P.S. Please stop the incoherence schmincoherence nonsense. Unless you have a faulty unit on your hands, or your ears are simply other-worldly, the SM64 just isn't incoherent. Though I'm willing to bet suddenly, post measurements, many listeners will begin to pop-up and claim otherwise.

Oh! so people who don't feel that the SM64 is good then either their units are faulty or their ears are "other-worldly"?. My Frogbeats C4 has similar dip but less serious in the 3k7 region, at first, i cannot figure it out but lately when seriously compared it to other IEMs, there is actually effect in the sound. As for the SM64, don't like them from the first time putting it on because of what i said. Didn't post here as i just put it on for 15 min and cannot compare it to any IEM.
 
May 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM Post #443 of 1,656
Well maybe the sm64 isn't for those of us who listen primarily to pink noise and sine sweeps instead of music.
 
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May 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM Post #444 of 1,656
Well maybe the sm64 isn't for those of us who listen primarily to pink noise and sine sweeps instead of music.


Missing the point, the sweep is to test the response, the 5k notch obviously messes up its musicality, it's a crucial frequency region.
 
May 23, 2013 at 12:05 PM Post #445 of 1,656
Was anyone questioning this issue with the musicality before the graphs? Do you own the sm64 Inks?
 
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May 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM Post #446 of 1,656
Was anyone questioning this issue with the musicality before the graphs? Do you own the sm64 Inks?


Apparently some were, the owner of the loaned pair wasn't too fond of them either. The graph is showing what's there, not creating an illusion of some sort lol
 
May 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM Post #448 of 1,656
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Seeing as how he seemingly dodged the question, I think the answer is pretty obvious...

What is your point? He didn't do the measurements anyway. Is there a problem with these IEMs? Yes there is. End of story
 
May 23, 2013 at 12:50 PM Post #449 of 1,656
I never heard someone complaining about the SM64 not being musical. The only complaints I saw was stuff like "they sound to warm for me/too much bass/mids".
I mean that doesn't get rid of this 5khz dip, but not many people seem to care about it.
 
May 23, 2013 at 12:57 PM Post #450 of 1,656
Hilarious as always.  They sounded good to me before and still sound good now.  I was trained as an EE but I still know in this hobby subjectivity is everything.  Measurements are just numbers, if the sound feels right to my ears, that is all.  Peace.
 

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