[Nirmalanow]

So I just pulled the trigger on a pair of these from Soundearphones. I am looking forward to hearing them with my Altmann Tera after the reports of how well they match up with that DAP.

 

[Inks]

SM64 users, a MUST read. I can't stand this kind of irresponsiblity by a manufacturer, where is the quality control?

 

[DigitalFreak]

Does anyone know if the SM64 can utilize a balanced termination? I was hoping to get an aftermarket cable with a balanced termination for my RX MKIII-B

 

[Inks]

To put it bluntly
 
these IEM are out of phase
audible distortion
there is a great possibilty the tweeter may not be in line on one side
even if the IEM were perferctly matched there is a huge 5k suckout, worse than that of the Heir 3ai. 

 

[DigitalFreak]

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[DigitalFreak]

Quote:

To put it bluntly
 
these IEM are out of phase
audible distortion
there is a great possibilty the tweeter may not be in line on one side
even if the IEM were perferctly matched there is a huge 5k suckout, worse than that of the Heir 3ai. 

Mine sound pretty nice. You think it might be a defective pair?

 

[Inks]

Mine sound pretty nice. You think it might be a defective pair?

Based on the pair Rin measured and heard, with all due respect I would re-evaluate what you think good sound is, because the thing is abomination, a company should take responsiblity for this sort of thing. 

 

[zach915m]

Let's try not to ruin this thread by making it about graph's and a graph vs listener discussion.  I just don't want to see this get derailed like the 4ai thread did.
 

 

[Inks]

What's detailing are the claims the manufacturer is claiming but fails horribly to show.



These have very nice bass to be fair, but the rest is horrid

 

[aras]

That freq graph looks horrible indeed. Around 5k is completely gone.

 

[roy_jones]

Quote:

SM64 users, a MUST read. I can't stand this kind of irresponsiblity by a manufacturer, where is the quality control?

 
Is it a quality control issue or a design flaw?
 
Any chance this was a defective pair?
 
 
If it's a design flaw then it's surprising that the model got released considering you'd have to imagine they would know that eventually the drop at 5k would come out and become a hot issue.
 
The person who tested it deserves a pat on the back, and at the same time I probably would have felt weird about releasing the info until I got my hands on a second pair to confirm it wasn't a one-off problem. 

 

[Inks]

Is it a quality control issue or a design flaw?

Any chance this was a defective pair?


If it's a design flaw then it's surprising that the model got released considering you'd have to imagine they would know that eventually the drop at 5k would come out and become a hot issue.

The person who tested it deserves a pat on the back, and at the same time I probably would have felt weird about releasing the info until I got my hands on a second pair to confirm it wasn't a one-off problem. 

The tweeter is perhaps a unit flaw but the rest is likely part of the design, these are mass produced so pairs are going to share the dip, distortion, etc. Even then it's a huge QC issue to be selling a poorly soldered IEM out to people, quality control is horrid. No wonder users also experience cracked shells, the quality isn't there....

 

[aras]

This is earsonics we are talking about. They cannot release a product without issuing a V2 a month after the launch. Looks like they will need V3 with SM64 to make it sound alright. Hopefully they will change the crappy plastic body as well.   

 

[roy_jones]

Quote:

The tweeter is perhaps a unit flaw but the rest is likely part of the design, these are mass produced so pairs are going to share the dip, distortion, etc. Even then it's a huge QC issue to be selling a poorly soldered IEM out to people, quality control is horrid. No wonder users also experience cracked shells, the quality isn't there....

This Rin fella deserves a medal.  I hadn't run across his website before.  Going to be spending some time reading I think. 
 
Seems to like Westone products okay, which is usually my go-to brand. 

 

[Rakan]

Good to see its graph. Thank Rin for the effort.
 
I did have a chance to put on the SM64 for about 15 min and very disappointed as i feel there was something wrong with the soundstage and the overall spectrum sounded incoherent. Seeing the measurements now explained well what i heard.