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Dec 3, 2011 at 6:16 AM Post #361 of 1,421
Another true aspect of driving a wonderful car is how it makes you feel about yourself and life. I was in sales for 20 years and the great feeling of pulling up in a nice car can change everything about you and make you feel like a million. This is really beyond being materialistic or shallow, but having enjoyment for what you have worked for. In sales they judge you by what you drive. A nice car even if you borrow money to get it, makes you an extra 30% of income a year just by how it makes you feel and the respect from your co-workers.
 
This far surpasses any extra money you pay in interest on the loan. 
 
 
Funny in Orange County California if you have a damaged and dented car you are really looked at as a bad human being, capitalism at it's very worst, the guy could have six children, work two jobs and still if he drives a beater, he is a bad person. The cops will even ticket you and pull you over in a shabby car. Wrong but true.
 
Dec 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM Post #362 of 1,421


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Funny in Orange County California if you have a damaged and dented car you are really looked at as a bad human being, capitalism at it's very worst, the guy could have six children, work two jobs and still if he drives a beater, he is a bad person. The cops will even ticket you and pull you over in a shabby car. Wrong but true.


That's a bit extreme and unfair of a comment.  Depends where in OC, you might just blend in depending.  Cops will pull you over wondering why insurance hasn't fixed the car yet.  Assuming you have insurance which is required by law.  Driving a damaged car can represent an unsafe road condition for others.  How many times have a you seen a car driving on the Freeway w/ a bumper bouncing around or flapping in the wind?  If you get a ticket and haven't violated the law, you can get the charge dropped by the Judge.  Otherwise breaking the law is breaking the law.
 
Btw, I suggest you look at the number one most ticketed vehicles.  Scions, Hummers, BMWs and Mercedes usually at the top.  Go to traffic court and you'll see just as many rich schmucks from Newport Beach as anyone else. 
 
 
Dec 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM Post #364 of 1,421
lol don't get upset. it was "dm" in '93. i was simply bringing forward the then currency. sorry i did not do the euro or usd math i am lazy. yeah it was 20 odd years but if it sat in a garage it returned more than a lot of investments. the thing is wait at least 10 years and don't drive it. if you drive a car it is not an investment. however, i see the nsx did pretty good. with low miles it is about the same price as it was new. of course no financial gain but perhaps no loss. well, factor in inflation etc. i guess it lost a little. anyways the fact that it is still what it cost new says a lot about that car. since it was not outrageously expensive to begin with. you can't say that about new honda's. they are good solid cars but they depreciate like any other car. albeit not as much as some.

scion? i get the others. most people in court have broken the law in some way. not all but most.
 
Dec 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM Post #365 of 1,421
Funny you mentioned that Scions get a lot of tickets.  I've only had one - a U-turn in a business district.  Guilty as charged, but was going about 5MPH with zero oncoming traffic.  But no speeding tickets in almost five years.
 
I got all of my speeding tickets in an Audi 5000 (when it was running) and a '95 Escort 5-speed with (IIRC) 88HP.
 
I've been speeding ticket free in the '71 Comet (302), a FC3S RX-7 and the tC.  I may have pushed those over the limit once or twice
 
Dec 4, 2011 at 4:08 AM Post #366 of 1,421


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Funny you mentioned that Scions get a lot of tickets.  I've only had one - a U-turn in a business district.  Guilty as charged, but was going about 5MPH with zero oncoming traffic.  But no speeding tickets in almost five years.
 
I got all of my speeding tickets in an Audi 5000 (when it was running) and a '95 Escort 5-speed with (IIRC) 88HP.
 
I've been speeding ticket free in the '71 Comet (302), a FC3S RX-7 and the tC.  I may have pushed those over the limit once or twice


It's usually kids in the Scions getting tickets.  Highschool, early college.  Most scions are pretty lightweight which translates to tossable. 
 
 
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:00 PM Post #367 of 1,421
i am guessing camaro,mustang,sti,evo get a lot of tickets too. i am also guessing those that do are probably guilty lol. weird thing i have noticed is they tend to let a supercar going 80 in a 55 just go by(not me). i can speculate as to why but i don't know. it seems things like z06 don't either. well, that sort of is a supercar.
 
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:11 PM Post #368 of 1,421
I had 0 tickets in my WRX (~85mph usu cruising speed) , 0 in my 330ci(~80 usu cruising speed), but 1 in a freakin grandma-mobile 2004 Camry(~70 usu cruising speed)... karma is a b*tch
 
Dec 4, 2011 at 10:11 PM Post #369 of 1,421
I've never seen seen a Corvette driver break the speed limit to or from the retirement home.  The only American cars I see get pushed are Vipers on the freeway and big-block trucks w/ insecure owners trying to drag every light.  Sometimes a Stang here and there.
 
Evos get hit a lot for tickets.  Automatic pull over and pop your hood around here, CARB (California Air Resources Board) laws.  Every mod to the intake and exhaust has to have a CARB sticker now.  Subies are more low profile when they have 5 doors and a baby seat.
 
Dec 5, 2011 at 3:38 AM Post #370 of 1,421
^ You make it sound like CARB is something new. Exhaust shouldn't be a problem, as long as the car isn't obnoxiously loud (95dB last I checked, which is pretty damn loud). At least those newer cars are turbo'd from the factory. You can be pretty stealth with mods to keep your warranty and avoid police/smog hassles. 
 
Dec 5, 2011 at 4:23 AM Post #371 of 1,421
Ive also noticed they don't really stop you unless you're riding a super riced 98 Civic with a 130db exhaust(at idle), giant flame wrap on the side (to add 500hp), giant shopping cart wing, and have 14in subs in the trunk that cause seismic activity. I used an old 5 series w/o exhaust as a dd in LA over the summer and wasn't stopped once. And by stealth mods I think you mean re-flashing, Id be very careful about doing that on a car w/o a proper dyno tune I've seen a few friends blow engines and destroying cats (if you still got them) by going DIY 
 
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^ You make it sound like CARB is something new. Exhaust shouldn't be a problem, as long as the car isn't obnoxiously loud (95dB last I checked, which is pretty damn loud). At least those newer cars are turbo'd from the factory. You can be pretty stealth with mods to keep your warranty and avoid police/smog hassles. 



 
 
Dec 5, 2011 at 4:46 AM Post #372 of 1,421

 
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^ You make it sound like CARB is something new. Exhaust shouldn't be a problem, as long as the car isn't obnoxiously loud (95dB last I checked, which is pretty damn loud). At least those newer cars are turbo'd from the factory. You can be pretty stealth with mods to keep your warranty and avoid police/smog hassles. 


CARB isn't new, deliberately targeting tuner cars to pull over and impounding them after inspecting the engine bay is.  That is a deliberately new policy only a few years old.  Setting up mobile test and inspection stations?!  Yeah, that's new.  If you don't have a CARB cert/sticker for your shiny aluminum intake or titanium exhaust kiss your car goodbye, you can pick up at the impound lot at a date tbd.  Ironically this happened to a friends Evo, I even warned him.  He rides crotch rockets now.
 
Some new erotica....
 

 
Dec 5, 2011 at 12:09 PM Post #373 of 1,421
Dec 5, 2011 at 8:30 PM Post #374 of 1,421
i think id take the genesis track six cylinder. where hyundai has gotten to is simply amazing. sure, the brz is lighter and more tossable but the genesis six should turn in much more impressive track times and i don't mean drag. i think that is the most fun per dollar ratio there is going.
 
Dec 5, 2011 at 9:06 PM Post #375 of 1,421
Depends on the track.  Streets of willow is all about light weight, corner carving and maintaining momentum and judicious braking.  Honestly, I have yet to see a Genesis anywhere near a track.  I'm beginning to think the Genesis is more of a paper tiger.  I've seen a GTR drive to a track and park to watch the racing.  
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  For a money to track performance ratio, nothing beats the Evo and Mustang 302 currently.  I'll take that track built GT300 BRZ.  =P.  GT300 class means it's restricted to 300hp.  Pretty sure it's all motor, not sure if its the 2.0 or 2.5 liter.
 
Here's a nice vid about power versus balance.  Apologize for the ad in advance.
 

 
 
 
 
 

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