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The ES11 is also much more balanced sounding than the ES10 from my listening. I think they(11's) are more refined, had one to buy but got used Sig Pro instead. Close call though.
I have es10, Ed8 and SigPro now. My choice for best closed is not listed here but all are good. The Ed8 and Sig Pro are significantly better than the ES10 both in detail and dynamics, basically they are a league above. However the es10 is lighter and smaller, more portable as well as easier to deal with on the go. So there are trade offs as usual. For what it is the ES10 is great.
Too many cans mentioned and so a lot can be said about all this..
Lets remember that Most cans can only be generalized because of the large physical difference of everyone's ears and that ears keep growing throughout your life so what your prefer now will not necessarily be the same years later..
Unfortunately for "baronkatz", his hearing is more sensitive to sibilants and so it deviates from the norm,
As I never herd anyone ever mentioned that the es10 is sibilants.
Yet I would agree that both the trebles and bass is elevated..
Also I have the ed8 and in no way can you compare the es10 bass anywhere near as good as the ed8..
Different higher league, yet what "he" experiences is true "To him"..
And him only so lets not have readers think that the es10 is sibilant or the ed8 sucks in any way..
He just needs a can with the signature that works for him,
And although the SIG pro may be that can, it is not what I would say as portable as the others.
Also I believe the perfect solution would be the esw11.
Rich textured bass and great delicate mids while being the ultimate non-sibilant can..
Yet even this can takes a back seat to my ed8 in palpable space and realism..
They remain one of my favorites.
Also I have to assume Bill-P cans are much much better than stock es10 so it is both an oddity and a rarity..
Whish I could compare but he is on other side of the country lol.
Haha, I now own a ATH-W1000 (non-X), and I can tell from the get-go that this headphone is just... perfect.
It's exactly what I wanted my ES10 to sound like. So when I get the ES10 back, I'll do some more comparisons, and probably adjust the sound (again).
Man, I wish I had known what the W1000 sounded like so that I could have avoided all of this. It's definitely perfect to my ears.
The only possible drawback is that it is a bit bass light. Bass has good impact, but no body, and is a bit on the leaner side. My modded DT770 Pro can easily beat the W1000 at bass. But tonal balance and overall smoothness/clarity of the sound is just so much higher on the W1000.
Hi, could you explain how did you manage to get this look? What is exactly "sanding" process? And is it necessary to remove cups in order to do that process (how difficult is that?). Im thinking on getting ES10 to replace my es700 and i know how easily these both cans pick up scratches so i imagine if i get es10 i will need to do this after month or right away. thanks
Hi, could you explain how did you manage to get this look? What is exactly "sanding" process? And is it necessary to remove cups in order to do that process (how difficult is that?). Im thinking on getting ES10 to replace my es700 and i know how easily these both cans pick up scratches so i imagine if i get es10 i will need to do this after month or right away. thanks
Hi, could you explain how did you manage to get this look? What is exactly "sanding" process? And is it necessary to remove cups in order to do that process (how difficult is that?). Im thinking on getting ES10 to replace my es700 and i know how easily these both cans pick up scratches so i imagine if i get es10 i will need to do this after month or right away. thanks
I love my ES10s, I just wish they were more comfortable. They are extremely portable (as all the ES and ESW series) and the most fun headphones I have in terms of sound. ...
Again it's hard to reach transparency without brightness, I want a non-bright headphone with excellent bass that's as transparent as the bright ones!
in Europe is no way to get ESW11LTD. I got lucky and discover, that one shop here has one pair of esw11 leather pads and is willing to down price for es10 a bit.
...Only thing concerning me was quite aggressive highs in some songs. I wonder what difference in highs could make those esw11 leather pads?
The solution for both of you is the esw11 pads...
You know... if you don't mind some slight modifications, you can either stretch the ES10 for a looser fit, or you can also disassemble the whole frame and stretch just the metal headband.
Though I must admit, the ESW11 ear pads are also not very comfortable. I think the most comfortable ear pads for the ES10 would be the ESW10LTD ear pads, but they are quite hard to get a hold of these days.