[Amalz]

  imo, hd800+nfb28 is good but not outstanding, burson conductor is much worse.
 
800 is quite amp picky, apart some tube amp, m9 is the only ss amp that i have heard which could present all strength of hd800.

 
What is M9 amp? 
Please give the website for this amp
 
and how much cost?

 

[jodgey4]

Audio-GD Master 9 amp = 1550 USD http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master-9/Master-9EN.htm - quite expensive, but the last amp you'd ever need!
 
The NFB-28 is a neutral amp, and I think that the problem with the HD800 pairing isn't the amp, but the headphones *flame suit on*. That's why many swap cables and use tube amps - higher output impedance can give a more tolerable and less clinical sound. How the M9 pairs well too, IDK, because it's designed to very high standards that should make it to be very transparent. I guess a good amp's a good amp no matter what .

 

[Amalz]

  Audio-GD Master 9 amp = 1550 USD http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master-9/Master-9EN.htm - quite expensive, but the last amp you'd ever need!
 
The NFB-28 is a neutral amp, and I think that the problem with the HD800 pairing isn't the amp, but the headphones *flame suit on*. That's why many swap cables and use tube amps - higher output impedance can give a more tolerable and less clinical sound. How the M9 pairs well too, IDK, because it's designed to very high standards that should make it to be very transparent. I guess a good amp's a good amp no matter what .

Do recommend me for NFB-28? Cuz i have HD 800 and in the future i will buy LCD-2 fazor, HE-500 and OPPO-PM2...etc

 

[jodgey4]

I haven't heard any of those cans but the LCD-2, and not much gear, so no, I can't recommend it. It's much cheaper, that's the reason I'd recommend it if you're looking at Audio-GD gear. The reason I chose the NFB-28 over something like the O2/ODAC - which probably sounds 99% the same - is just because of the inputs, outputs, and more power (I didn't know at the time that the NFB-28 is not suitable for IEM's). And Kingwa is a pretty cool dude

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[elwappo99]

 

  Zach!, it seems you and I are destined to be apart of the same threads my friend...that or we just have impeccable taste in all things audio., mhaha. 
 
As to the NFB28 I heard it was good with the HD800s but not great, something like the conductor, Bryston, and Vahalla 2(which I heard with the HD800s beats out more expensive amps due to the synergy)

havent heared bryston,vahalla 2 
but in my opinion the conductor with 800 is way toooo boring, mediocre sound, nothing good

 
I owned a Burson Soloist for awhile (Conductor minus the DAC section) and I was totally disappointed. There are so many people that love Burson amplifiers, but I found it to be really underperforming for the price. I thought the Matrix M-stage sounded better. After making this comment I've found most people feel the same, they just don't talk as much. 

 

[Amalz]

  I haven't heard any of those cans but the LCD-2, and not much gear, so no, I can't recommend it. It's much cheaper, that's the reason I'd recommend it if you're looking at Audio-GD gear. The reason I chose the NFB-28 over something like the O2/ODAC - which probably sounds 99% the same - is just because of the inputs, outputs, and more power (I didn't know at the time that the NFB-28 is not suitable for IEM's). And Kingwa is a pretty cool dude

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T.y jodgey4  very much 
 
what dose mean cans?
what you mean LCD-2, and not much gear?
you mean 28 like OB2? 
and what is the headphone you try with 28?

 

[jodgey4]

Cans = headphones, just another word that is sometimes used .
 
I've heard the LCD-2's with Fazor, but not many amps or DACs. I've heard the Benchmark DAC1 HDR, and the NFB-28, but no other amps or DACs.
 
Not sure what you're asking here, sorry. I think maybe you're asking about the O2/ODAC combo? If so, the O2/ODAC combo (amp and DAC) is a very cheap and clear sounding combo that is hard to beat for the price. The NFB-28 is also very clear, but you pay a lot more money for all the additional features. The sound is probably very similar - just a guess.
 
I currently use LCD-2's with Fazor and AKG Q701's with the NFB-28. It sounds great with both using the single ended output. I don't have the cables (XLR) to try balanced output yet.

 

[Amalz]

  Cans = headphones, just another word that is sometimes used .
 
I've heard the LCD-2's with Fazor, but not many amps or DACs. I've heard the Benchmark DAC1 HDR, and the NFB-28, but no other amps or DACs.
 
Not sure what you're asking here, sorry. I think maybe you're asking about the O2/ODAC combo? If so, the O2/ODAC combo (amp and DAC) is a very cheap and clear sounding combo that is hard to beat for the price. The NFB-28 is also very clear, but you pay a lot more money for all the additional features. The sound is probably very similar - just a guess.
 
I currently use LCD-2's with Fazor and AKG Q701's with the NFB-28. It sounds great with both using the single ended output. I don't have the cables (XLR) to try balanced output yet.

That's great!! 
Btw i meant headphone like HiFiman HE-500 and OPPO-PM2 

 

[xxxfbsxxx]

  Cans = headphones, just another word that is sometimes used .
 
I've heard the LCD-2's with Fazor, but not many amps or DACs. I've heard the Benchmark DAC1 HDR, and the NFB-28, but no other amps or DACs.
 
Not sure what you're asking here, sorry. I think maybe you're asking about the O2/ODAC combo? If so, the O2/ODAC combo (amp and DAC) is a very cheap and clear sounding combo that is hard to beat for the price. The NFB-28 is also very clear, but you pay a lot more money for all the additional features. The sound is probably very similar - just a guess.
 
I currently use LCD-2's with Fazor and AKG Q701's with the NFB-28. It sounds great with both using the single ended output. I don't have the cables (XLR) to try balanced output yet.

i also tried o2/odac and its simply in 2-3 level below the nfb28, just talking about sound quality alone
also paired he500+lcd 2f with nfb28, very good combo, natural but not clinical sound, sound flows effortlessly

 

[WhiskeyJacks]

  I haven't heard any of those cans but the LCD-2, and not much gear, so no, I can't recommend it. It's much cheaper, that's the reason I'd recommend it if you're looking at Audio-GD gear. The reason I chose the NFB-28 over something like the O2/ODAC - which probably sounds 99% the same - is just because of the inputs, outputs, and more power (I didn't know at the time that the NFB-28 is not suitable for IEM's). And Kingwa is a pretty cool dude

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I feel the NFB 28 is more than 1% increase in quality than the o2 and odac. I think that it is a very good unit with good power, granted it is neutral some people do like that some do not. With the ZMF x Vibro it sounds incredibly quick and powerful. THe He-560 which is more fast and neutral than the Vibros still sounds great too on this amp, granted I would like a tube amp to pair with it for a different sound occasionally.

 

[jodgey4]

Other than power issues and balanced operation, I highly doubt the units are that different. They're both clean and neutral, which can be shown by measurements. I don't really wanna derail this, but perhaps someone could do a detailed comparison between the two?

 

[Amalz]

I order today NFB-28 its in my way 

 

[WhiskeyJacks]

Other than power issues and balanced operation, I highly doubt the units are that different. They're both clean and neutral, which can be shown by measurements. I don't really wanna derail this, but perhaps someone could do a detailed comparison between the two?

No they are not that different, I did not mean that the o2 odac was super inferior but from when I owned it, there was a difference in sound quality imo. I am sure power and balanced jack has a decent amount ot do with it. I will see if I can borrow one from my friend. I am thinking the NFB 28 is a great unit though thus far, great power, clarity, detail. I will say I feel like I get a bit more detail from the NFB 28 then the odac/o2 which I am not sure if it has something to do with balanced or not. 

 

[jodgey4]

Increased channel seperation would probably be the only difference... idk. I really want to buy an O2/ODAC combo, as it's kinda the golden standard in many's eyes.

 

[elwappo99]

  Increased channel seperation would probably be the only difference... idk. I really want to buy an O2/ODAC combo, as it's kinda the golden standard in many's eyes.

 
I'll swap an O2/ODAC combo for a NFB-28