[freitz]

  The battery life on my iPhone 7 and cipher cable is amazing. At around 40% volume and playing AAC files, I am losing about 3% battery life per hour of play. Since my normal day to day use is around 50-60% battery, I have no fear of running my battery down.

Thats good to know. I just picked up the Sine;s with Cipher as my travel kit. Iphone 7 coming from the company soon too.

 

[UNOE]

Does anyone else have headphones that squeak? Mine are new

 

[xoxiax]

I have three pads incoming to finish up my pad rolling.

I decided not to wait and post my impressions on 5 current pads i have now,
So later on today I will post.

Edit:
Also my vesperaudio pads should be coming today

Great, waiting for it!!!

 

[sup27606]

I have been using the Sine with the pono player for a while, in the balanced mode. I found it to be a very good companion to the Sine. Excellent bass and imaging, and pleasant treble. Finally enjoying my lossless collection in the proper way. However, balanced mode is a must, because in the regular way it sounds like crap.

 

[lilbukka]

Do you have larger pads on your sines? What kind? Where from?

 

[Vesperaudio]

Look on the previous page

 

[Maxx134]

I have three pads incoming to finish up my pad rolling.


I decided not to wait and post my impressions on 5 current pads i have now,

So later on today I will post.


Edit:

Also my vesperaudio pads should be coming today

Great, waiting for it!!!

Sorry I was away again....

This will be VERY interesting as I wind down to the last pads,
Because both the VersperAudio and the Audio Technica are quality leather pads,
Yet the fake protein leather pads look VERY MUCH like the Audio Technica for only $9 ..

So I waiting on the last 3 pads to come in for comparison, but suffice to say so far among the ones I have tried the Audio Technica pads are clearly in the lead, with the inserts just increasing quality of sound,
Probably due to better & tighter fit...

I was mistaken before on shipping.
My VersperAudio leather pads will come in today, so I will post tonight.

What really intrigued me is how the other non name cheapo type fake leather pads will hold up.

The headphone are clearly very dependent on pads so there will be differences.

 

[sikki-six]

Anyone have an idea where to find the MSR7 pads in the EU-zone (for a good price)? I also forgot how those attach into the Sine 

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Cheers!

 

[inertianinja]

  Anyone have an idea where to find the MSR7 pads in the EU-zone (for a good price)? I also forgot how those attach into the Sine 

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Cheers!

 
Email audio-technica's parts department, that's the only way to get the genuine ones.
 
Honestly, guys, it's a $450 headphone, I think $30 to get pads that are known to be good is justifiable.
I wouldn't throw $9 knockoff pads on there just because the pictures look similar!

 

[Got the Shakes]

Sorry I was away again....

This will be VERY interesting as I wind down to the last pads,
Because both the VersperAudio and the Audio Technica are quality leather pads,
Yet the fake protein leather pads look VERY MUCH like the Audio Technica for only $9 ..

So I waiting on the last 3 pads to come in for comparison, but suffice to say so far among the ones I have tried the Audio Technica pads are clearly in the lead, with the inserts just increasing quality of sound,
Probably due to better & tighter fit...

I was mistaken before on shipping.
My VersperAudio leather pads will come in today, so I will post tonight.

What really intrigued me is how the other non name cheapo type fake leather pads will hold up.

The headphone are clearly very dependent on pads so there will be differences.

 
You're saying you find the Audio Technica pads to improve the sound quality even over the stock on ear pads?

 

[lilbukka]

Are the vesperpads easy to put on the Sines?

 

[lilbukka]

I'm very glad to find that the pads can be replaced. I wonder if Cardas or some other company will come out with replacement cables?

 

[Maxx134]

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Honestly, guys, it's a $450 headphone, I think $30 to get pads that are known to be good is justifiable.
I wouldn't throw $9 knockoff pads on there just because the pictures look similar!

Lol your right of course..

You're saying you find the Audio Technica pads to improve the sound quality even over the stock on ear pads?

Stock pads have noticeable weaknesses I will get my notes, but suffice to say hell yes,
The Audio Technica pads destroy the stock pads in many aspects including resolution and imaging..

I will post all detailed notes soon.

I hate to post comments that sound like hype,
But, to me the Sine was slightly like a baby Utopia in both its sonics and it's resolution.

Now, with tight pads it has raised the Sine to top level of the best portables,
like Ultrasone ED5 and OPPO PM1/2 , all which I owned.

I also keep the HifiMan Edition S, which also almost is there at the top my all time favorites,
As I find its good to have two portables and two home units..

The only issue with the Sine I could point out is a slight upper treble elevation which is above any sibilance range but noticeable.

I still haven't received the other pads yet though.

 

[bigtim]

Your efforts are appreciated @Maxx134 - thank you. Having experienced the difference between stock pads on a pair of Senny HD25's and some 3rd party pads I know the difference can be huge. 

 

[Maxx134]

PAD ROLLING OBSERVATIONS ...



Stock pads:
flat sterile but very nice soundstage for small pad.

HM5 angled leather pads:
much more distant, yet sweeter "U shaped" sound, lacking much liveliness..
Adapters helped fit but same outcome.

Flat HM type pads:
worst tinny flat lifeless sound.
Adapters helps fit but still same.

Some protein leather small pads:
Similar shape and fit as stock,
But overall duller lifeless sound.
Did attenuate trebles though.
No adapter needed.

Geekria Sennheiser RS160 RS170 RS180 Headphone Velvet Replacement Pads :
Now this was an extremely quality pad with almost exact shape as sine and OVER EAR pad, which NEEDED the adapter to fit.
Excellent quality feel and look.
Too bad can't say same for sound.
While the proximity of soundstage and midrange was better than all the other pads previous,
It really sounded soo lifeless and a suck out almost as bad as the HM5 angled pads, except shifted to upper midrange loss...

Epic fail on all pads so far untill ...
Audio Technica...


Ath 7 pads with adapters:
wow,
juicy, more detailed, most involving, most natural tone & better mids. Livelier.
Only drawback is Soundstage a bit close than stock or all others, yet deeper stage as well.
A bit of lower midrange bleed as well

Ath7 pads w/2mm inserts:
Even more detailing, realism and focus.
More seal, slam and a bit more overall brightness and clarity.
No tunnel effect or midrange dullness or treble weirdness of other pads.
Better more accurate mids was high point.

Most impressive outcome was the surprising overall increase in realism.
I attribute this to tightening & stretching of the pads on driver from the inserts.
This combo will be extremely hard to beat.
Still having less stage than stock pads.

Ath7 pads with 4mm inserts:
AMAZING...
Soundstage finally proportioned properly to account for proper discernment of spacial cues,
and much better imaging/instrument separation, without the slight confusion of midrange sense of too "proximity" when using with no insert.

Also the more proper or neutral soundstage which 2mm insert almost achieved.

With the 4mm inserts Sine gives better presentation than stock pads in both soundstage and imaging..
Imaging actually very impressed now.

Take note that none of the pads could solve the slight treble elevation of the upper most trebles, but it was not an aspect of much concern with this combo as it was with the other pads.

The Audio Technica pads with the adapter and 4mm spacer combo , are ....

sooo far away BETTER than ALL THE OTHER PADS...
it's ridiculous!
It's like night and day.
No ear sucking or internal vaccume pressure problems either...

Audeze representatives truly need to wake up and look at this ..

So total cost expect to pay around $65.50 total for the adapter and the Audio Technica pads...

This puts the price in same league as the custom-made *vesperaudio* leather pads, which are shipped and on way to be tested next...
along with two other cheapo flebay pads...(another velour and fake leather)

So far the BEST setup is the Audio Technica with insert by a landslide...
I do mean a landslide.

So Untill Audeze finally wakes up to it it's blunder with it's garbage suction pads,
This adapter needs to be on every Sine.
You have no clue what your missing.


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