[3x331m]

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Originally Posted by daltonlanny /img/forum/go_quote.gif ... and sometimes the differences are not subtle.

You reminded me of Patrick82.

 

[Pete7]

Placebo is an excuse that people who've never compared cables in their system use to explain sound differences that others hear when they do.

 

[stevenkelby]

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Originally Posted by Pete7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Placebo is an excuse that people who've never compared cables in their system use to explain sound differences that others hear when they do.

Not necessarily. Maybe those people have tried, but are unable to hear any difference, for whatever reason, so they assume no one else would be able to either.

 

[Elephas]

Benefits of being a cable person:
1. Presumably better sound
2. More fun
3. Better-looking cables

Benefits of being a non-cable person:
1. Fatter wallet
2. Simpler gear configuration
3. Less variables, presumably more peace-of-mind

 

[Pete7]

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Originally Posted by stevenkelby /img/forum/go_quote.gif Not necessarily. Maybe those people have tried, but are unable to hear any difference, for whatever reason, so they assume no one else would be able to either.

Maybe that's the case some of the time, but to me it seems the ones who claim cables don't make a difference have never compared different cables. How can anyone be so ignorant to think silver and copper cables don't possess different sonic qualities?

 

[3x331m]

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Originally Posted by Elephas /img/forum/go_quote.gif Benefits of being a cable person: 1. Presumably better sound 2. More fun 3. Better-looking cables Benefits of being a non-cable person: 1. Fatter wallet 2. Simpler gear configuration 3. Less variables, presumably more peace-of-mind

That's a serious looking power cord. My grandma might mistaken it as a godsend and keep it on her shrine.

 

[Elephas]

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Originally Posted by 3x331m /img/forum/go_quote.gif My grandma might mistaken it as a godsend and keep it on her shrine.

I do keep it on my "shrine."

 

[Icarium]

Yeah its pretty infuriating when people don't do some good testing before forming an opinion (Not to say all non-believers don't test. All I am saying is that there are people who do form opinions without testing and its lame). But it is also important in keeping an open mind. I for one am jealous of people can do not hear a difference because then they don't need to spend as much! Sadly I do hear a difference :/

 

[Filburt]

Cable geometry, dielectric, and material can perhaps make measureable differences in various ways (e.g. various attributes, and then sometimes in measuring certain types of distortion with certain devices), but that's a much different sort of claim from claims that this is audible. A pretty large amount of measureable phenomena aren't audible. It seems like people overestimate the sensitivity of human ears when trying to develop theories on what sorts of changes make for audible results, to sometimes surprising degree. I've tried a variety of cables including some rather pricey stuff, and even had the fun of trying to measure performance characteristics on a few, and I have ear training from testing various psy models for lossy codecs since the late 90s. About the only situation in which I obtained a particularly audible change was going from a very short (0.15m) to a longer (2m) cable, and I suspect this may have been due to the longer cable inducing oscillation to the point of audibility in the nearly totally unstable output device (a much more serious problem anyhow ). I'm open to the possibility that my test methodology was in some manner flawed, though I would be surprised to find that I managed to overlook audible differences when I can detect rather minor distortions in psy model testing without significant modifications to test methodology.

Understandably, I think, I decided I'd avoid a big investment in cables for my own use. I use basic cable that gets the job done. I've tried pretty diligently to find audible differences, and at that point I'm looking at differences so subtle (if at all existing) that my money is better spent elsewhere. Even the differences I've seen others describe don't strike me as getting near the price/performance ratio of various other tweaks I could bother with, so it doesn't seem like a wise investment for me. However, nice cables do look snappier and, let's face it, aesthetics is a major part of the hobby for many people as well. There are certain situations where design/construction is very important (such as impedance matching for an S/PDIF connection) and so I take that seriously. I may make some snappy cables for the heck of it if I get bored enough and have the time and resources, and then test them of course.

I'm certainly happy to entertain another cable test if someone wants to put up with me . I don't have much investment in it either way so I'd be happy to verify your findings if I should encounter such results

 

[Asr]

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Originally Posted by Elephas /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Wow! What power cord is that? Where did you get it from and for how much?

 

[krmathis]

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Originally Posted by Downrange /img/forum/go_quote.gif LOL! Cognitive dissonance, K!! hey, "the more you pay, the more it's worth!" I had to really bite down hard to order and pay for those silver cables you recommended (150 bucks), but they seem to be well made, and definitely do the job.

The $150 Signal Cable Silver Resolution Balanced sure is a great sounding cable. But to my ears the $1000 RSAD Poiema!!! Signature provides a new level of clarity and bass extension.

Well worth the money for me. But I am sure others can live happily with a $5 interconnect...

 

[hew]

Some will never realize the true potential of their system because they refuse to even consider proven tweaks. It's like cooking without salt.

But then, for others tweaking is just another black hole.

 

[Captain ?degard]

I'm not a cable person. I'm a plug person to the extent that i bought neutric 3.5mm plugs, but thats it. I dont have the equipment to hear any difference either way

 

[Gurra1980]

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Originally Posted by Elephas /img/forum/go_quote.gif

A cable that looks as good as this, sure must sound wonderfull!

 

[apnk]

I am not a cable person. I do believe that a $50 cable is better than a $1 cable, but I don't think a $50 cable is worst than a $100+ cable.