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Originally Posted by scottiebabie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
.....what i find strange is that people dont give a hoot when someones character and name gets assassinated and the rest applauds (on basically the worldstage) without a care for the consequences....
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If nobody cared about the consequences, this thread wouldn't have any responses worth reading.
If you're talking about Robert's character and name being assassinated, I'll ask if you've read Jan's message with the schematic, including his follow-up message saying that the Headphonia model he had in his possession not only had the same schematic, but the same values, which Robert now says are different, but which apparently were not when the one that Jan received was manufactured.
Read the schematics messages again, starting with the one in which Jan posted the photo of his schematic. Among several things, one to note includes this sentence: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan Meier
The Headphonia amplification circuitry is a 1:1 copy of the circuitry shown above (except for the fact that Robert later decided to leave out R19 and R20 and has short circuited the space on the PCB of the Headphonia with small pieces of wire)....
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Jan has been a member of the community with the most sterling of reputations as a design contributor and businessman since before Head-Fi was founded nearly six years ago. This is why he would receive at least enough benefit of the doubt to believe that he's not lying about the Headphonia amp he has in his possession. I won't make any proclamations of guilt or innocence here in this message, but I will say that, for example, it would be helpful to Robert's position, in my opinion, to see an articulate response that explains why Jan would have a Heapdhonia amp in his possession with identical schematic, identical values, and why R19 and R20 exist (again, in identical fashion to the Porta Corda, in Jan's assessment, which probably few, if any, who know him doubt) if only to short them with wire?
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Originally Posted by scottiebabie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
....what i find more strange is that the accuser gets "the benefit of a doubt" and doesnt have to prove his charges but the accused has to defend and prove himself innocent. anyone else see any whodoo voodoo here?...
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Again, Jan's contributions to this community predate the founding of Head-Fi. His reputation as a businessman serving his customers is also virtually peerless.
On these forums, for nearly six years, Jan has been rather quiet and mellow, and isn't one to stir the pot. To the best of my recollection, he has made a similar assertion only once before (someone selling a crossfeed unit based on his design), and it turned out he was correct then.
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Originally Posted by scottiebabie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
....what i find strangest is that "the good old boys" feel that since they pioneered this business, they are then defacto entitled to it regardless of global reality. does GM, FORD and CHRYSLER (if theres a Chrysler left) ring any bells?...
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If you have a problem with Tyll's message, respond to Tyll's message, but don't attribute it to other manufacturers because he mentions other manufacturers. For what it's worth, in the context of this situation, I agree with what Tyll is saying.
And, to that point, it is my opinion that one has no right to use another's design for resale without the designer's permission (unless the design was put out there with the understanding that it was free to be used in any way). Within the confines of this community, this has been recognized before, with companies properly licensing technology/designs from one another, including Grace licensing Meier's crossfeed, and Audio Alchemy licensing HeadRoom's crossfeed. HeadAmps's commercial use of Gilmore's designs and name has also been done under the aegis of Kevin Gilmore.
Explain to me how your "global reality" bit even applies to this situation?
Additionally, I find the suggestions that such a situation is only legitimized is if it is in the form of a lawsuit absurd. I would venture that most who've made this suggestion in this thread have never actually sued or been sued.