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Apr 28, 2016 at 11:15 AM Post #13,127 of 39,986
Trying out a new tube combo :
 
Philips 5R4GYS/WE421A/B65 - doesn't sound as strong as the 3DG4/6336/Chrome Dome 6SN7 with my low Z cans (Oppo PM2 and SR-225e)..a bit disappointing really. Sounds a bit lean/thin, not much heft in the lower registers and sharp up top.
 
BUT, it sounds better with my Beyer T1 2nd gen....odd but i guess that's how it is with head-fi : all about the synergy i suppose. Need to try another rectifier, perhaps i will get a fuller sound.
 
Apr 28, 2016 at 11:52 AM Post #13,129 of 39,986
  My favorite combo is WE 421A/WE 274A/B65,  but different headphones and different head amp :)
 


Nice rig!
 
I tried swapping rectifiers with the 3DG4 but it developed a slightly high pitched hum which was affecting my listening but more importantly, it didn't improve the lean sound, just maybe a smidgeon better.
 
Now using the USAF596 rectifier and i'm getting back that nice fuller sound and driving the PM2s pretty well. A smile has returned to my face :) I would say this combo has more sub-bass than mid-bass so it may not sound as fun but it can shake the drivers when the recording has the necessary sub-bass.
 
Apr 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM Post #13,131 of 39,986
My favorite combo at the moment... if you ask me next week, it will likely be different lol :)
 
A quad of 3-mica Sylvania 6BX7, GEC U18/20 and Lorenz C3g (1960's embossed flat-black cans). With the same rectifier and output tubes and a pair of Siemens C3g the presentation was just a bit too bright for my ears. Swapped in the slightly more laid-back Lorenz and the magic is back.
 

 
Apr 28, 2016 at 6:25 PM Post #13,132 of 39,986
  Trying out a new tube combo :
 
Philips 5R4GYS/WE421A/B65 - doesn't sound as strong as the 3DG4/6336/Chrome Dome 6SN7 with my low Z cans (Oppo PM2 and SR-225e)..a bit disappointing really. Sounds a bit lean/thin, not much heft in the lower registers and sharp up top.
 
BUT, it sounds better with my Beyer T1 2nd gen....odd but i guess that's how it is with head-fi : all about the synergy i suppose. Need to try another rectifier, perhaps i will get a fuller sound.


5R4GY has a lot of voltage drop when used in this application, this is likely your culprit.  My love for this tube in the IHA-1 doesn't extend to use in the OTL sadly.  For low Z cans I have always found 3DG4 >> B65 >> 5998 to be as good as it gets for my ears.  For high Z I just replace the 5998s with 6520s instead.
 
Apr 28, 2016 at 6:31 PM Post #13,134 of 39,986
5R4GY has a lot of voltage drop when used in this application, this is likely your culprit.  My love for this tube in the IHA-1 doesn't extend to use in the OTL sadly.  For low Z cans I have always found 3DG4 >> B65 >> 5998 to be as good as it gets for my ears.  For high Z I just replace the 5998s with 6520s instead.

Ah thanks for the input there- much appreciated! I don't have 5998s yet but I could try the 6080s instead. Will do so tonight and let's see how it goes :)
 

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