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Feb 16, 2017 at 7:12 AM Post #2,673 of 15,897
Feb 16, 2017 at 7:23 AM Post #2,674 of 15,897
wont the paint come off if you try to peel the sticker off?

 
Oooh no not at all .. i am surprised at the cohesive strength of it 
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 8:46 AM Post #2,675 of 15,897
  Lucky you, this is considered to be the best tour they ever made. I started to see them on No prayer...
 
@cleg: what do you mean by reduced DR on remastered version ?
 
 
 

I saw the Number of The Beast tour back in the day. As you probably are aware when music is highly compressed the difference in amplitude between the various elements is reduced and as a result everything is equally loud. This makes music very fatiguing as the normal amplitude differences in less compressed music helps the hearing brain make sense so when it is very compressed the brain is extremely stimulated and I suspect the lack of dynamics doesn't allow the brain to fully deal with the stimulus pieces before it is slammed with more. Just a theory of mine, but I would like to look for some real research about how loudness in music causes fatigue. We know it does, but I would like a neurological explanation for what the hearing brain is confronted with.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:00 AM Post #2,676 of 15,897
I saw the Number of The Beast tour back in the day. As you probably are aware when music is highly compressed the difference in amplitude between the various elements is reduced and as a result everything is equally loud. This makes music very fatiguing as the normal amplitude differences in less compressed music helps the hearing brain make sense so when it is very compressed the brain is extremely stimulated and I suspect the lack of dynamics doesn't allow the brain to fully deal with the stimulus pieces before it is slammed with more. Just a theory of mine, but I would like to look for some real research about how loudness in music causes fatigue. We know it does, but I would like a neurological explanation for what the hearing brain is confronted with.
How does the dynamic range get lowered in compressed music? I thought removes stuff which we are not so sensitive depending upon a psychoacoustic model.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:08 AM Post #2,677 of 15,897
Just managed to pick up a decent priced Fiio Balanced cable for use with my SE846's ready for trying when my X5III arrives. I'm aware I may get increased background hiss and this would be awkward to work with my iFi iMatch adapter to deduce the hiss without a number of adapters (3.5mm on iMatch).
 
I know little about balanced so just a quick question: With the balanced cable in the normal 3.5mm headphone socket on DAP/Phone (with 2.5 to 3.5 adapter) would I hear anything or totally messed up sound ?
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:26 AM Post #2,678 of 15,897
How does the dynamic range get lowered in compressed music? I thought removes stuff which we are not so sensitive depending upon a psychoacoustic model.

I should perhaps have said perceived dynamic range, as that is how I understand it.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:41 AM Post #2,679 of 15,897
  Just managed to pick up a decent priced Fiio Balanced cable for use with my SE846's ready for trying when my X5III arrives. I'm aware I may get increased background hiss and this would be awkward to work with my iFi iMatch adapter to deduce the hiss without a number of adapters (3.5mm on iMatch).
 
I know little about balanced so just a quick question: With the balanced cable in the normal 3.5mm headphone socket on DAP/Phone (with 2.5 to 3.5 adapter) would I hear anything or totally messed up sound ?


 Only the balanced output will output balanced sound.  I might misunderstand the question though?
 
a 2.5 to 3.5 mm TRRS adapter should be fine if the output is balanced and the cable is balanced
 
 
 
 
On a side note..
 
I am tweaking the hell outta Neutron.
If i like an item this is kind of a ritual for me
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Mod edit: added spoiler tag
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 9:54 AM Post #2,680 of 15,897
 
 Only the balanced output will output balanced sound.  I might misunderstand the question though?
 
a 2.5 to 3.5 mm TRRS adapter should be fine if the output is balanced and the cable is balanced
 
 
 
 
On a side note..
 
I am tweaking the hell outta Neutron.
If i like an item this is kind of a ritual for me
tongue.gif

 

 
Put more simply. If I plug my earphones with balanced cable into a normal headphone socket of a smartphone will they work without having to swap back to my unbalanced cable or not work/sound bad.
 
And,  I've upset someone & took some flack for defending you comparison video in the DX200 thread ....
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   Funny
 
How far you off doing full review on the DX200 & X5III ?
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 10:13 AM Post #2,682 of 15,897
  Let's keep it on topic, please.


 Sorry.
 
 
 
 
 
   
Put more simply. If I plug my earphones with balanced cable into a normal headphone socket of a smartphone will they work without having to swap back to my unbalanced cable or not work/sound bad.
 
And,  I've upset someone & took some flack for defending you comparison video in the DX200 thread ....
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   Funny
 
How far you off doing full review on the DX200 & X5III ?

 
 
Not sure about your question but someone else surely does.
 
I am switching back and forth most of today and will probably do a proper review of each this weekend. Nothing has changed really but I will explain why i like what I like. It's all just opinions. No science here.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM Post #2,683 of 15,897
  Let's keep it on topic, please.


​LOL, yes sometimes we stray a little too far. Don't worry, women like looking at pictures of men so it all comes out in the wash as they say. Still, point taken.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 11:14 AM Post #2,684 of 15,897
Hi Guys,

Reading all these posts is increasing my interest on X5 3, I can't wait to listen to it. A few days back my mind was hesitating between X5 3, Opus#1 and Plenue M2 but right now I am so set on getting X5 3.

Especially "Hawaiibadboy", you inspired me to go with X5 3.

Also, can you recommend me IEMs to pair with X5 3? I am looking for a straight fit rather than over the ear like the Shure IEMs (if they are too good, I will try to adjust).
My budget is $300 - 400.
 
Feb 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM Post #2,685 of 15,897
Sorry for offtopic.
I mean dramatically reduced dynamic range in new remaster.


 
*crying for the victims of the loudness wars
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I never look st it. To me its not there. See the power of a controlled mind?

   
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  I know exactly what you mean 
 

 
I don't have any stickers on any devices, peeled the stickers off my laptop the moment I got it, always doing this with the devices I won - gives the user the purest sensation of that device. 
 
So I'm trying this double side adhesive paper (tape)







 

The mod looks really tidy! 
 
Curious how long it will lost or if there are any drawbacks! Anyway, great work on the mod! 
 
Hi Guys,

Reading all these posts is increasing my interest on X5 3, I can't wait to listen to it. A few days back my mind was hesitating between X5 3, Opus#1 and Plenue M2 but right now I am so set on getting X5 3.

Especially "Hawaiibadboy", you inspired me to go with X5 3.

Also, can you recommend me IEMs to pair with X5 3? I am looking for a straight fit rather than over the ear like the Shure IEMs (if they are too good, I will try to adjust).
My budget is $300 - 400.
 

The 300-400$ range is very filled to the bring with all kinds of IEMs, no chance of someone telling you what would be best for you without a comprehensive description of your tastes! 
 
My personal take: Go with a second hand ie800 if you can find a trustable source or put money up to ie800, it is the best straight down wearing style IEM I tested to date. 

My second personal take: Many people love FiiO Ex1 with some EQ - you might want to check it out! 
 
My third personal take: Dunu DN2000 series, Echobox X1, and many others  - your tastes were not mentioned so you might also like Etymotic or Shure or you know - virtually anything. 
 

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