[Reviewers Wanted] World Tour for Cayin i5 - Android based AK4490 DAP with WiFi, Dropbox and Google Play

Nov 8, 2016 at 12:49 AM Post #181 of 256
I have updated the status of all groups in the top post of this thread. I try to minimize the "boring" administrative updated, as long as all reviewers keeps their status update in the group PM efficiently, I should be able to keep these status updated.



Alternatively, when you received the tour package, you can post a photo of the i5 tour unit with your regular music (album art) and headphones, or alongside your home system on the i5 discussion thread, I'll take that as a confirmation of receiving the package and update the status accordingly. This is actually a preferred approach as the photo is a good contribution to the Cayin i5 community already.

I have prepared a set of press kit on i5 DAP during for the CanJam RMAF event. I suppose the press kit will be useful for the Tour reviewers as well, if you want to take a look on this, check out the following link:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2hOfIpcK24hQVo3UXNtd09nbU0

If you need further support, please raise your concern here or in the discussion thread, we'll try our best to help out.
 
Cayin Stay updated on Cayin at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
http://en.cayin.cn/
Nov 8, 2016 at 7:03 AM Post #182 of 256
wink_face.gif

On with the show .....
 
Nov 14, 2016 at 1:44 AM Post #186 of 256
Received Cayin i5 yesterday.
I have updated the firamware to latest V2.0.
Here are some pictures I took.







Well done, finally all Tour package were received in good order, and this is the latest update of the tour status.

Group 1: US (Washington + Oregon) status: Alpha124 received Tour package on 9 November
Group 2: US (California) status: gto88 received Tour package on 13 November
Group 3: US (Colorado + Wisconsin) status: DJ The Rocket received Tour package on 7 November
Group 4: US (Missouri + Minnesota) status: PinkyPowers received Tour package on 9 November
Group 5: US (East) status: shotgunshane received tour package on 8th November
Group 6: Asia status: Hawaiibadboy received tour package on 9th November
Group 7: Europe status: Twirefriend received tour package on 10th November
Group 8: Oceania status: H20Fidelity received Tour package on 7 November


I just want to remind the tour reviewers about the tour arrangement update on 12 Octobrt:

(1) Is it possible if I want like to keep the tour sample for longer then 1 week in order to do a more thorough review?

Yes, this is possible and we have accommodated this in previous DAP tour. Normally the FIRST reviewer in a Tour group can keep the Tour unit for TWO weeks, and subsequent reviewer can keep the unit for 1 week. We offer a slightly longer review period to our first reviewer of each group because we expect he/she need more time to explore the basic feature of the player, and subsequent reviewers will take advantages of the aging and writing of the first reviewer.

The last reviewer of the group will also have the flexibility to keep the Test unit for longer period because the delay in completing the review will no longer affect other participants in the tour.

Therefore if you planned to do a comprehensive review report for i5 during the tour and would like to have more time to complete your test, please drop me a PM to discuss the arrangement and I'll consider your writing plan and previous review record during my Tour scheduling.


http://www.head-fi.org/t/822302/reviewers-wanted-world-tour-for-cayin-i5-android-based-ak4490-dap-with-wifi-dropbox-and-google-play/15#post_12931049

In fact, we have had similar practice when we conduct our N5 World tour in 2015. We find this useful because
  1. The tour machines are brand new from the production line (or ex-Show-demo with very little hours), hence require longer hours to break in
  2. The first reviewers will need to cover the basic features in more details as they are going to write the the first batch, so I'll them more time to explore the function and features of the i5.

I am merely offering the flexibility due to past experience, I shall leave the final arrangement to the reviewers. Please feel free to finalised the handover arrangement at your Group PM.
 
Cayin Stay updated on Cayin at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
http://en.cayin.cn/
Nov 15, 2016 at 9:17 PM Post #188 of 256
Received the i5 on Nov 14, 2016 (yesterday) as part of the US East tour. The photo below shows the device with my PSB M4U4 (1 dynamic driver [DD] + 1 balanced armature [BA] driver). This IEM was voiced by the legendary Paul Barton. Not reference neutral, but very close to neutral slightly on the warmer side. Has the ROOMFEEL technology.

 
 
Below is i5 with Vibro labs Aria (gorgeous wooden face plates). Quad BA IEM (Universal). Slightly V shaped sound signature with extended bass/sub-bass and good extension in treble. Colored and warmer but still enjoyable, good listening experience.

 
I'll later take a photo with 64audio's U4SE with ADEL technology. 
 
Nov 16, 2016 at 3:21 AM Post #190 of 256
Received the i5 on Nov 14, 2016 (yesterday) as part of the US East tour. The photo below shows the device with my PSB M4U4 (1 dynamic driver [DD] + 1 balanced armature [BA] driver). This IEM was voiced by the legendary Paul Barton. Not reference neutral, but very close to neutral slightly on the warmer side. Has the ROOMFEEL technology.




Below is i5 with Vibro labs Aria (gorgeous wooden face plates). Quad BA IEM (Universal). Slightly V shaped sound signature with extended bass/sub-bass and good extension in treble. Colored and warmer but still enjoyable, good listening experience.



I'll later take a photo with 64audio's U4SE with ADEL technology. 

Nice, so how does the i5 sound? : p
 
Nov 16, 2016 at 12:52 PM Post #191 of 256
Nice, so how does the i5 sound? : p


(1) The build is very good and the color is very good in person. Decent size screen.

(2) It is thick but not bulky. It is hefty but not heavy. It can be easily carried in the pant pocket.

(3) The user interface is decent and intuitive for anybody coming from Android world. The touch screen is very responsive. No issues there.

(4) 32 GB onboard storage and has 29GB available out of the box. Uses Android 4.4.

(5) The volume control is tight in a good way. the line out and headphone sockets are good quality. Overall the device screams premium quality.

(6) I hooked up the line out with my car stereo and it was awesome.

(7) I was using my earphones on the headphone out port and once plugged it wrongly into the line out port. My ear drums should have been blown away. But it didn't. The volume was very low and increasing the volume didn't do much. And then I realized the mistake and changed the port. On my Fiio X3 ii, i would've had my ear drums blown out by now. I don't know how Cayin prevented such a thing from happening. But I was thankful for the feature :-)

(8) The sound signature is not reference neutral. But is very close to neutral and slightly on the warmish side. Sparkle at the top. And it extends very well in the lows. The layering and separation is quite good. Nothing extraordinary. The soundstage is average in width and it is also suitably deep. the vocals are in the center where it needs to be and then there are instruments playing to the sides and behind the vocals in another layer.

(9) The noise is pretty much non-existent and the background is black. Cayin has almost nailed the sound. And definitely they'll improve upon it in the future models (if any). But I like this sound signature very very much. all the frequencies are presented with good detail and clarity.

(10) The drums are a treat to hear on this device. Sounds very natural, has impact, texture and clarity without getting bassy. The bass is there if it's there in the song. The sound is enjoyable, addictive and pleasing. Cayin can be proud of pulling it off nicely with i5.

Drawbacks:

(1) Play by folder doesn't have the feature of playing all sub folders. If there's one, I didn't see it. In Onkyo DP-X1 and my android phones, I can easily play randomly all songs in all folders from any level I'm at. I didn't try installing a 3rd party app to see how it fared.

(2) The MacBook external Dac feature didn't work. It mightn't be a problem of this unit as AK Jr also did the same and I had to try different cables before one worked. This unit has USB Type C port and I don't have any cables to hook up to my Mac. Have to try it on windows.
 
Nov 16, 2016 at 4:10 PM Post #192 of 256
(8) The sound signature is not reference neutral. But is very close to neutral and slightly on the warmish side. Sparkle at the top. And it extends very well in the lows. The layering and separation is quite good. Nothing extraordinary. The soundstage is average in width and it is also suitably deep. the vocals are in the center where it needs to be and then there are instruments playing to the sides and behind the vocals in another layer.

(9) The noise is pretty much non-existent and the background is black. Cayin has almost nailed the sound. And definitely they'll improve upon it in the future models (if any). But I like this sound signature very very much. all the frequencies are presented with good detail and clarity.

Wow, this seems like good news for me then. The AKM DACs tend to have that sound signature, so I'm really looking forward to seeing how it sounds.

Having a very low noise floor is important to me as I tend to be able to hear the background hiss, which bothers me.
 
Nov 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM Post #193 of 256
I am now in possession of the MO/MN unit, tour Group 4. Pretty cool, so far! Trying to hook Bluetooth to my 2010 Prius; if anyone has helpful tips.:thumbsup:

Initial impressions mirror above. Very well built, good quality, pleasing color scheme.
 
Nov 18, 2016 at 11:37 PM Post #194 of 256


Day two with the MO/MN Group 4 unit. Mainly used with my CA Novas; but I am currently using the Tennmak Pro with very positive results.

More details tomorrow, suffice to say that I echo much of what is stated above: slightly warm (I would say a bit more so than posts above), a more "intimate" sound stage, a clean sound, and the better the recording quality the better the sound.

I say that because I have not experienced that detail in other devices I own as much...a sign that this is a good piece of kit. Cheers.
 
Nov 19, 2016 at 2:54 AM Post #195 of 256
Have had the i5 one week now, here is my impression.
You know the drill, this is only my own opinion, IMMV.
 
Look and feel:
   - i5 itself looks gorgeous, on hand, it feels very smooth and comortable, its build
     quality is one of the top among all mobile devices.

   - leather jacket fit perfectly, and very easy to put on and off to player body.
     the high quality of the leather is a plus on i5's look.
 
Operating Software/Human Interface:
   - I updated to new formware 2.0 when I got it.
     During my music playing, I got a frozen screen when I am browsing display information.
     I guess this is the OS issue not the firmware, but I am not 100% sure aboout it.
     I was using digital coaxial output at the time, not sure if it is related.
     In other playing mode, it has never happened again.

   - took me some times to play aorund with it to get familiar with all the operation.
     I didn't bother to look into manual come with it, it is not difficulty to figure out.
     Most people are using mobile device all the time, this should be easy for anyone to
     get used to it in no time.

connection Interface:
   - DLNA interface:
     I have a personal cloud which support DLNA streaming, and while setting it, Cayin found
     the server almost immediately after pressing search button.
     Then, I just player the selected music by browsing through those folders on my server.
     Everthyhing is smooth.
 
   - digital output (coaxial):
      Tour package includes a coaxial cable, which I connected to my Dr.DAC2 DX digital input.
      I had not used this connection before, and it works smoothly without any issue.
      To connect to portable amplifier with digital input, this will be a good feature.
      Per my understanding the cable is sold separately though.
 
   - USB to computer as a external DAC.
     To use in this mode, user needs to download USB driver for Windows, which I did.
     After installed, the driver is showed in the output list of my foobar2000.
     I set and play, and it just works like my other DACs, no issue at all.
 
   - Line out:
     I connected its line out to my Dr.DAC DX line in using 3.5mm to RCA, again, it works fine.
 
   - external SD card.
     I inserted a SD card, which I used to install the new firmware as instruction.
     And I played music on the SD card as well.
     This is a good feature for user when going mobile.
     Supporting up to 200GB is a great deal of space to store music.
 
   - external USB drive
     I don't have proper cable to connect it, but I see someone posted a successful connection
     to a desktop external drive provided with external power connection of the drive.
     It is said that Cayin i5 cannot provide sufficient power to a high speed external drive, but
     possible for a SSD.   I have not tried this.
     
   - All connection has a correspponding icon showing in main window.
     i5 interface designs are complete and smooth, eveything works as it should be.
     Even it is expected, I still give Cayin applause for the smoothness of all functionalities.

Amplifier:
   - The output 190mw/ch can drive my HE-1000 (V2) without problem.
     And it has more than enough power to drive my Beyerdynamic DT-770 80ohm headphone at office.
     I am sure it can drive many other headphones.
 
Sound Quality:
   - As a all in one unit like i5, its sound quality is pretty good to me.
   - When using as DAC+amp, it sounds better than my iFi idsd nano, better impact of bass.
   - With my Denon AH-D5000, it drives It in full potential that I have never heard before.
   - With my HE-1000, it can be loud, but doesn't drive it well in my opinion, after all
     HE-1000 requires more power to sound good.

Conclusion:
   - Cayin i5 DAP is equiped almost all possible connection one may need, and its DAC capability cover
     all popular music format, you can play everyhting you can get on hand with.
     It is a better to go mobile than using cellphone+dac+amp combo.
   - i5's variety connection offer a great dal of flexibility allowing you to easily plug into your
     desktop configuration.
     Use it as DAC or as pre-amp, it is up to your preference.
   - all in all, Cayin i5 DAP is a great unit for all purposes in head-hi world.
 
 
Addendum:
 
(2nd user report in my household)
 
  1. The i5 was able to tell that the headphone out port was connected to the in-car AUX port, and will not output sound from the port when connected, it will only play through the dac out port.
  2. Comparing the Michael Jackson - Billie Jean with 320kbps MP3 vs the DSD track was night and day difference. There was much more detail in the instruments. It’s immediately clear in the intro drum and snare section of the track that DSD was indeed much higher definition in comparison. Also, the extra dynamic and the cleanness with Michael’s voice in the DSD version was just spectacular.
  3. The i5 drove the AKG702 amazingly well, the bass was extra meaty and punchy. It also highlights the amazing soundstage that the AKG702 delivers so well on.
  4. UI navigation was smooth, if you’ve ever used any android based devices before you’ll feel right at home.
  5. Pairing with bluetooth earphone was easy, although the i5 did not react to the pause and start button on the Brainwavz BLU-200 when my iPhone does, hopefully it’ll get address in a future firmware update.
  6. Transferring file to the i5 was easy as well, simple drag and drop operation. After you’re done use the search for music function to get it to show up on the device UI. Although it does add their own meta data to your existing folder structure. Also there are probably important system folder and files that are easily modifiable if you’re not careful, since it basically acts as a usb drive.


 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top