vigrith said:

   
Short version - buy it.
 
Long version - buy it now.
 
In all seriousness, it's the my favourite pairing so far and I've got plenty of headphones (more expensive than the 650s) to choose from.

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coltmrfire said:

Jotunheim has been on for almost 24 hours. It is a lot warmer than it was just after being turned on the first time. I am actually very surprised. It is very nuetral but has a warm signature to me.

I just put the HD650 up for sale here, did not like them at all. They had some nice qualities but didn't care for the treble roll off and dark sound.

The Jot with my T90 is a brillaint pairing. Enjoying it very much. My next can is going to be the HD800.

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vigrith said:

   
About as significant as it gets, in my opinion. Have owned both (albeit briefly as I wasn't happy with the O2) at the office and they're just in different leagues - especially once you factor in all the functionalities and connections, etc. that the Jotunheim offers. Given how they're priced there's no contest.

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ancipital said:

Ah good, so you liked it in the end, after all that discussion?    



Without wishing to seem rude, you just eschewed the obviously best pairing for this amp, and are now planning a far more expensive bad pairing, it's a little perplexing. I suppose it takes all sorts, but still... 

Also, I question your ears, if you're hearing it running "warm" after leaving it on. It doesn't change much, and is a rather neutral amp. Maybe you should keep a pair of neutral-ish cans around to help you calibrate your ears sometimes, I think they're haunted 

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ancipital said:

 
Also, I question your ears, if you're hearing it running "warm" after leaving it on. It doesn't change much, and is a rather neutral amp. Maybe you should keep a pair of neutral-ish cans around to help you calibrate your ears sometimes, I think they're haunted 

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comzee said:

T90 is brighter than hd650.
Jot is just a hair bright, internal dac making it more bright.

Based on Colt throwing out the hd650, and liking the T90, we can only assume his personal preference is bright.
In that vain, he'll probably love the hd800 with it, take the 6khz spike and shove it right into your ear, some people like that tho, not knocking it. 

I think the only confusion he has, is no baseline. Because he is referencing pretty much universally reviewed things that are "bright" as "warm".
Who knows, eh. 

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coltmrfire said:

My preference is actually neutral but I don't mind bright. But the T90s are not nearly as bright as say, the DT880, they are fairly warm in comparison. Look, I know I hurt your feelings by not fellating the 650, but come on guys, a little fair and balanced!

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bavinck said:

To my ears the t90 is brighter than dt880 by a fair margin.

Not to be a thorn, but I think your preferences are bright, not neutral. You are posting like crazy all over the forums these days and everyone can see you are preferring a bright signature.

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comzee said:

   
I think the only confusion he has, is no baseline. Because he is referencing pretty much universally reviewed things that are "bright" as "warm".
Who knows, eh. 

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coltmrfire said:

Its funny how we wish others would like what we like and berate them when they don't. There is no objective "best" pairing for the Jot. Its just opinion/taste, and everybody has different ear drums.

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coltmrfire said:

One of my favorite headphones was the HD600 which has a more neutral signature. The only reason I sold it was because it did not offer the technical abilities I needed to handle complex orchestral passages. The T90 were a fairly cheap alternative to the HD800 or T1 so I got them used on head fi. I did not care for the overly treble happy nature but that was only a problem 5-10% otf the time. The other 90% saw it performing brilliantly at exactly what I wanted in my classical stuff. So my preference is neutral but I will take the technicalities even if it means brighter. Please stop presuming to know what I prefer. If the HD600 did what I needed I would never have gotten rid of them.

I also see you are eager to jump on the 650 hype train since you want to buy my 650. Have you heard them before? Don't make the same mistake I did. What signature do you prefer?

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toto man said:

Not wishing to fan the flames but I've always seen "bright" and "warm" as overly-subjective broad-brush descriptors with too much room for interpretation/misunderstanding.  Perhaps I'm in the minority, but IMO it would be helpful to know which parts of the frequency spectrum are causing the perceived brightness or warmth in the item being described.  e.g. take a headphone that boosted between 5kHz and 10kHz and another that boosted between 10kHz and 20kHz, would it be appropriate to describe them both simply as "bright" even though the different portions of HF emphasis will give them VERY different sonic characters? 

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ancipital said:

Exactly what I was getting at!



Believe me, dude, if I were getting at you, there'd be no room for doubt.

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