I went from the 2 slot dx80 to a 2 slot dpx1 so (unforgivably) late announcement that the 200 will be one slot is a real bummer. BUT I also have a one slot DX100 and the SQ is out of this world.

If (as Paul has said) the dx200 SQ will exceed that of the dx100 then the dx200 is not dead in the water as far as I am concerned. Price is important to me. I am not going to get 2 slots and no wifi or Bluetooth (which would be ideal for me) so price and SQ could still swing it.....

My personal buying trigger for this dap: dx200 must beat Opus 1 on SQ battlefield, with price tag no further than 999$, then i definitely get it.

rockcoon said:

My personal buying trigger for this dap: dx200 must beat Opus 1 on SQ battlefield, with price tag no further than 999$, then i definitely get it.

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We will try and make you happy.

C'mon Paul, we are a 3rd of the way through this month lets get this thing for sale, I know they are boxed and ready.

Opus1 is 399 dollar player. and honestly year old already, would want to compete them ?

''Tis all a dream, oi tell ye, an 'orrible dream!!!!

antz123 said:

Opus1 is 399 dollar player. and honestly year old already, would want to compete them ?

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Agree, but it didn't impress me much. Competition is LPG and WM1A in my opinion, as well as Opus 2.

mimouille said:

Agree, but it didn't impress me much. Competition is LPG and WM1A in my opinion, as well as Opus 2.

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Yeah, i have high hopes for this being its been forever since it was first announced. I think I may seriously buy this as long as its not some absurd price.

paul - ibasso said:

 
We will try and make you happy.

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$499 and I'll buy, since it only costs iBasso $149 to manufacture it, $350 is more than enough profit, then also ten times as many people will buy it.
 
$999 is out of reach for most buyers and just plain greedy, enough of these mama's boys who are happy to make paper planes out of $100 bills, they're in the minority and obsessed with buying any and everything in town because they're so unhappy in their heart and have money to throw away, just keep the price real for the majority and the real people.
 
And anyway, theres not a huge difference in manufacturing cost between a DX200 and a FiiO X1 - truth be known, just implementation and very-slightly higher priced parts here-and-there. Yes the DX200 will have some frivolous extras, but all for what, like it's not as if a few extra codecs for bluetooth and DSD actually cost anything worth mentioning.
 
R-&-D someone will say, ahhhh forget it, R-&-D was done years ago already, no R-&-D to speak of, minimal actually, each product has a design, but that's par-for-the-course, tell me something new Lol, next to no cost to recover.
 
The DX200 is simply a music playback device, they've been arond for donkey's years, nothing new at all, same ole same ole, so stop overcharging our ass', of which there are multitudes of different models on the market already when it comes to DAPs.
 
The reason a FiiO X1 costs $99 retail is because it costs barely more than my farts to manufacture, just like the iPhone costs Apple only $250 to manufacture (including all labour and shipping and parts), R-&-D was done ten years ago on the first model, then slight tweaks to the formula from there, nothing to it.
 
Please resist the greed factor, we all wish to buy, not just shi*ty nose Bob with a pocket full of cash.

utopiab said:

$499 and I'll buy, since it only costs iBasso $149 to manufacture it, $350 is more than enough profit, then also ten times as many people will buy it.

$999 is out of reach for most buyers and just plain greedy, enough of these mama's boys who are happy to make paper planes out of $100 bills, they're in the minority and obsessed with buying any and everything in town because they're so unhappy in their heart and have money to throw away, just keep the price real for the majority and the real people.

And anyway, theres not a huge difference in manufacturing cost between a DX200 and a FiiO X1 - truth be known, just implementation and very-slightly higher priced parts here-and-there. Yes the DX200 will have some frivolous extras, but all for what, like it's not as if a few extra codecs for bluetooth and DSD actually cost anything worth mentioning.

R-&-D someone will say, ahhhh forget it, R-&-D was done years ago already, no R-&-D to speak of, minimal actually, each product has a design, but that's par-for-the-course, tell me something new Lol, next to no cost to recover.

The DX200 is simply a music playback device, they've been arond for donkey's years, nothing new at all, same ole same ole, so stop overcharging our ass', of which there are multitudes of different models on the market already when it comes to DAPs.

The reason a FiiO X1 costs $99 retail is because it costs barely more than my farts to manufacture, just like the iPhone costs Apple only $250 to manufacture (including all labour and shipping and parts), R-&-D was done ten years ago on the first model, then slight tweaks to the formula from there, nothing to it.

Please resist the greed factor, we all wish to buy, not just shi*ty nose Bob with a pocket full of cash.

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lol liking this post, truly speaking up for the working class man that wants a great sounding DAP at reasonable prices! Amen brother

utopiab said:

 

paul - ibasso said:

 
We will try and make you happy.

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The reason a FiiO X1 costs $99 retail is because it costs barely more than my farts to manufacture, just like the iPhone costs Apple only $250 to manufacture (including all labour and shipping and parts), R-&-D was done ten years ago on the first model, then slight tweaks to the formula from there, nothing to it.
 
Please resist the greed factor, we all wish to buy, not just shi*ty nose Bob with a pocket full of cash.

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With all due respect, X1 doesn't just cost more than your farts, it also sounds like one   And stop talking smack about my friend Bob

utopiab said:

$499 and I'll buy, since it only costs iBasso $149 to manufacture it, $350 is more than enough profit, then also ten times as many people will buy it.

$999 is out of reach for most buyers and just plain greedy, enough of these mama's boys who are happy to make paper planes out of $100 bills, they're in the minority and obsessed with buying any and everything in town because they're so unhappy in their heart and have money to throw away, just keep the price real for the majority and the real people.

And anyway, theres not a huge difference in manufacturing cost between a DX200 and a FiiO X1 - truth be known, just implementation and very-slightly higher priced parts here-and-there. Yes the DX200 will have some frivolous extras, but all for what, like it's not as if a few extra codecs for bluetooth and DSD actually cost anything worth mentioning.

R-&-D someone will say, ahhhh forget it, R-&-D was done years ago already, no R-&-D to speak of, minimal actually, each product has a design, but that's par-for-the-course, tell me something new Lol, next to no cost to recover.

The DX200 is simply a music playback device, they've been arond for donkey's years, nothing new at all, same ole same ole, so stop overcharging our ass', of which there are multitudes of different models on the market already when it comes to DAPs.

The reason a FiiO X1 costs $99 retail is because it costs barely more than my farts to manufacture, just like the iPhone costs Apple only $250 to manufacture (including all labour and shipping and parts), R-&-D was done ten years ago on the first model, then slight tweaks to the formula from there, nothing to it.

Please resist the greed factor, we all wish to buy, not just shi*ty nose Bob with a pocket full of cash.

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esm87 said:

lol liking this post, truly speaking up for the working class man that wants a great sounding DAP at reasonable prices! Amen brother

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Not only do I dislike it, but I reported it. Not only is it not very smart, as iBasso clearly stated it will be more expensive than the DX100, it is clueless in terms of business understanding.

But worse of it all is the hate for people who can afford. So we (because I can afford it, as many on this forum) are insulted by a bitter hater on the basis of being able to afford more. To my recollection what people do with their money and how they obtained it is none of this poster's business.

As for unhappiness in out heart, well this posters bitterness speaks volumes.

mimouille said:

Not only do I dislike it, but I reported it. Not only is it not very smart, as iBasso clearly stated it will be more expensive than the DX100, it is clueless in terms of business understanding.

But worse of it all is the hate for people who can afford. So we (because I can afford it, as many on this forum) are insulted by a bitter hater on the basis of being able to afford more. To my recollection what people do with their money and how they obtained it is none of this poster's business.

As for unhappiness in out heart, well this posters bitterness speaks volumes.

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The truth cuts like a knife to the bone, every time, makes them up-in-arms, very predictable.
 
And I never mentioned a thing about how or why people make their money, you've twisted my post out of all context, just like Hillary and her cronies.

mimouille said:

Not only do I dislike it, but I reported it. Not only is it not very smart, as iBasso clearly stated it will be more expensive than the DX100, it is clueless in terms of business understanding.

But worse of it all is the hate for people who can afford. So we (because I can afford it, as many on this forum) are insulted by a bitter hater on the basis of being able to afford more. To my recollection what people do with their money and how they obtained it is none of this poster's business.

As for unhappiness in out heart, well this posters bitterness speaks volumes.

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There's nothing bitter or hate filled in my post or thoughts about dx200 or pricing. Everybody wants a great price, as low as possible on everything they buy. That's logic. I have zero issue paying the price of an item if I want it either. I can understand the guy's post and his thoughts though.

Obviously ibasso won't be pricing this in the lower echelons regardless of manufacturing costs. That's fine too. I'll buy it if I want it.

Im in the middle of saving for vega which is not exactly pocket change for a pair of IEM's. Were talking a G plus in UK. Would I like them price more around £100 than £1000 of course... not bothered they are the price they are though. Plenty of headfiers impressions leads me to believe they are great value.

When people talk about price, alot of time it isn't about the price. It's more about the perceived value of a product. Ask joe bloggs to spend £x amount on a DAP and he will scoff most likely and says his phone is fine. Ask the same guy to hear the voices of Angels out of a certain DAP and all of a sudden it makes sense... I can hear angels every day and it only needs an investment of x amount, fantastic!

Nobody on here really knows people's spending power. Am I following threads as a dreamer? Lol no... if I want a dx200 and its £1000+ would it be out of my league? No... would I like it be as low cost as possible? Yes, same with everything I buy.

The tighest people I've known in my short life so far are pretty wallet tight, im talking some seriously wealthy people. I can claim to know a multi millionaire who recycles laces from old work boots when its pretty clear they could do with a whole new boot lol

utopiab said:

  $499 and I'll buy, since it only costs iBasso $149 to manufacture it, $350 is more than enough profit, then also ten times as many people will buy it.
 
$999 is out of reach for most buyers and just plain greedy, enough of these mama's boys who are happy to make paper planes out of $100 bills, they're in the minority and obsessed with buying any and everything in town because they're so unhappy in their heart and have money to throw away, just keep the price real for the majority and the real people.
 
And anyway, theres not a huge difference in manufacturing cost between a DX200 and a FiiO X1 - truth be known, just implementation and very-slightly higher priced parts here-and-there. Yes the DX200 will have some frivolous extras, but all for what, like it's not as if a few extra codecs for bluetooth and DSD actually cost anything worth mentioning.
 
R-&-D someone will say, ahhhh forget it, R-&-D was done years ago already, no R-&-D to speak of, minimal actually, each product has a design, but that's par-for-the-course, tell me something new Lol, next to no cost to recover.
 
The DX200 is simply a music playback device, they've been arond for donkey's years, nothing new at all, same ole same ole, so stop overcharging our ass', of which there are multitudes of different models on the market already when it comes to DAPs.
 

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It would be nice if it only cost $149 in parts but it costs much more. If it did we would price it to reflect that. R&D changes as the chips change and as we integrate the circuit to get the most out of the new chips being used. Past R&D gives experience but that is all. New chips and function require a tremendous amount of time. The DX200 will be very reasonable priced compared to what the cost is to us but we can not afford give it away or we like any business will no longer exist.