Schiit Yggdrasil Impressions thread

[Articnoise]

   

Right, thanks. I did submit this "screechingly bright, bleached and hyper-detailed sound" comment for discussion under the Life after Yggdrasil thread, and one suggestion was that in a live, unamplified concert one would get the same sense of things being bright and hyper-detailed. Of course, whether one has a preference for this or not is either way a valid preference...
 
And then there is all those factors that might have colored the sound one way or the other for the reviewer...

 

Many people seems to think that overly bright, sterile and hyper-detailed sound is natural and realistic - I don’t know why.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

In a certain respect, this is the HD800 vs HE-1000 (or LCD-4) argument, though genre preferences can't be elided.

 

[Currawong]

Could be the transport used, to some degree. I can understand it not mating well with some gear. Experimenting with various equipment at a local hi-fi store, I have ended up with rigs that are fantastically annoying to listen with, despite using excellent components.

 

[manpowre]

  More impressions, rather than reviews, but see page 15 (currently the last page) of the Metrum Pavane thread.
 
There are so may variables involved in any subjective response. I've heard my own Yggy sounding a bit thin and flat (but still very good overall) with the stock power cord and the weakest digital interconnect (AES in my case). That transformed to a better class of DAC that was no way thin or flat with a better power cord and best digital interconnect (toslink in my case).
 
Before anyone asks, I have earlier posted the details on this thread. The search button is your friend.
 
Other people have posted very different synergy combinations that worked for them. Like I said, so many variables.... .   

Try purchasing the Intona USB isolator, it makes wonders on the Yggi.

 

[crazychile]

I finally scraped together the cash for a Yggdrasil B stock. Should have it Friday.
 
For those of you that want a Yggy and don't want to wait 3 weeks (and also save $200), there are still some B stocks available.

 

[acguitar84]

  I finally scraped together the cash for a Yggdrasil B stock. Should have it Friday.
 
For those of you that want a Yggy and don't want to wait 3 weeks (and also save $200), there are still some B stocks available.

Congratulations crazychile. I'm looking forward to reading your Yggy impressions!

 

[manpowre]

I bought an Yggy last few days too after I reviewed it!! It is so amazingly musical and detailed at the same time. And it goes deep. Perfect fit for my LCD4, V281 AMP and Nordost Heimdall2 cables.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

I'm assuming that i'll get it, but i figured i'd upgrade my bifrost beforehand just to make sure. probably won't be able to afford it before september anyway.

 

[koolblue3]

I'm yet to really see negative reviews of Yggdrasil. Could you share a link?

This is a small comparison not a review, though of course you have to wonder how long the Yggy was plugged in for, whether proper break in had occurred etc. https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/01/30/review-aune-s16-dac/

 

[crazychile]

I'm yet to really see negative reviews of Yggdrasil. Could you share a link?

This is a small comparison not a review, though of course you have to wonder how long the Yggy was plugged in for, whether proper break in had occurred etc. https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/01/30/review-aune-s16-dac/

I wondered about that as well. I also thought the Raspberry Pi as a source may be suspect. While I admit I've never heard one, I did a lot of research before buying another Mac Mini to replace my old one. While there are people who certainly like the RP, I've read as many reviews by people that just thought they were OK.

i also followed the Gustard x20 thread for a while and might have even tried one if it didn't have to come from China and was serviceable inthe US. There were a few people that said they preferred it to the Yggy also. But lets face it, some people just like the sound of a delta sigma dac better than multibit. Mike even said that if God himself told him how to build a perfect dac, some people would still prefer something else.

 

[buke9]

I wondered about that as well. I also thought the Raspberry Pi as a source may be suspect. While I admit I've never heard one, I did a lot of research before buying another Mac Mini to replace my old one. While there are people who certainly like the RP, I've read as many reviews by people that just thought they were OK.

i also followed the Gustard x20 thread for a while and might have even tried one if it didn't have to come from China and was serviceable inthe US. There were a few people that said they preferred it to the Yggy also. But lets face it, some people just like the sound of a delta sigma dac better than multibit. Mike even said that if God himself told him how to build a perfect dac, some people would still prefer something else.

Way too true. There are people that are so invested in what they think is the best and you will not convince them otherwise. That is fine for me as I hear what I hear and I will go by that. If you like something different more power to you. I'll just keep my Yggy if you don't mind.

 

[Benny-x]

Way too true. There are people that are so invested in what they think is the best and you will not convince them otherwise. That is fine for me as I hear what I hear and I will go by that. If you like something different more power to you. I'll just keep my Yggy if you don't mind.

I actually have this problem with R2R and multibit zealots. It's the implementation, not the DAC chip... And even if it were the DAC chip, maybe someone likes the synergy of the way a certain system goes together, or the mods they've done to my headphones, or the whatever...
 
There's no perfect anything, and even when there is, it's cool for someone to like something different. It's fine that they do like or dislike something and it's alright to discuss it. 
 
I'd really like to get an Yggy in house with a couple other DACs at its level so that I could test them in exactly the situation I was going to use them :-/  I'm really not sure what to expect from my next DAC jump, but I'm looking for something in the $2000-50000 range and really want it to be a keeper. Maybe when I have all the money?

 

[theveterans]

  I actually have this problem with R2R and multibit zealots. It's the implementation, not the DAC chip... And even if it were the DAC chip, maybe someone likes the synergy of the way a certain system goes together, or the mods they've done to my headphones, or the whatever...
 
There's no perfect anything, and even when there is, it's cool for someone to like something different. It's fine that they do like or dislike something and it's alright to discuss it. 
 
I'd really like to get an Yggy in house with a couple other DACs at its level so that I could test them in exactly the situation I was going to use them :-/  I'm really not sure what to expect from my next DAC jump, but I'm looking for something in the $2000-50000 range and really want it to be a keeper. Maybe when I have all the money?

 
Multibit really needs to be completely warmed up to sound good while most delta sigma implementations sound at their best right after turning on. Many reviews and listener's impressions on the Yggy vary so greatly (from grainy/harsh to the most natural sounding DAC at its price range) since IMO Schiit r2r implementation is extremely sensitive to whatever audio chain is linked to (from transport, to amps and cables, probably power conditioners too). Chord DAVE (a delta sigma DAC) owners in the DAVE thread claim that DAVE is much more resilient to any sound changes in input as well as the transport compared to their previous DACs which is probably why Chord DAVE reviews and impressions are very similar on the internet.

 

[gefski]

Multibit really needs to be completely warmed up to sound good while most delta sigma implementations sound at their best right after turning on.

Not necessarily. Check out my link a couple pages back to an Audioquest white-paper on digital device warmup.

 

[landroni]

   
I actually have this problem with R2R and multibit zealots. It's the implementation, not the DAC chip...

I actually have this problem with implementation zealots. If implementation is all that matters, then surely the engineering implementation of the heart of the DAC (the D/A conversion chip) must matter as well... Just like a full-blown DAC, the D/A conversion chip will itself be an exercise in engineering compromises and tradeoffs, and however you look at it the D/A converter will provide a baseline performance for the DAC that no amount of engineering around it will improve upon.