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Nov 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM Post #481 of 808
For the past few years, the most frequent
That said, I think you guys know that we're always happy to work with you, so I propose the following...  After you get them, live with them for a while, especially at night.  If you truly can't stand the new faceplate, let me know after about a month or so, and I'll see what I can do?  :smile:

Wouldn't have it any other way!  :smile:


Does this offer still stand?
 
Nov 7, 2016 at 3:59 PM Post #482 of 808
Having the dubious distinction of being the first on this thread to receive the current run of LAu's, I thought I'd give y'all an update.
 
I'm now well over 500 hours on the LAu, so it is well and truly burned in. The rest of the system has also stabilized. You can see my system details below. My personal story for this system is that I'm semi-retired, and I am now blessed with the time and funds to assemble and enjoy an end-game setup. For a variety of reasons, I've chosen to invest in a head-fi system.
 
As you can see from my system chain, I've invested both time, effort, and funds to tweak many elements of my chain. What does this have to do with the LAu? Well - the incredible resolution and accuracy of the LAu enabled the impact of every change and tweak to be audible, whether for better or for worse!
 
I've already written about the sonic qualities of the LAu up-thread, so I won't repeat myself. But, I will add a few observations:
  1. The LAu and HD800 combination is outstanding. However, it does benefit from careful cable matching, especially interconnects.
  2. After much comparison, I settled on a pair of used Ayre Signature 1m XLR balanced cables. Others I considered were: Pangea, Moon Black Dragon, Cardas Cross (used), Cardas Golden Cross (used). While I realize that finding the Ayres used is well nigh impossible, I am told that these are (almost) identical to the Cardas Golden Reference. These are now discontinued, but sold online at attractive discounts - google "Cardas legacy cables."
  3. The effect of this matching is to bring out the very best of really good recordings. I have a lot of DSD content, being a classical fan. If you're into this stuff, you'll understand when I say listening to "O mensch" from Mahler's 3rd, for example, is like being transported to a different plane of existence.
  4. On the flip side, the LAu/HD800 combo is never going to be forgiving of poor recordings. 
  5. At some point, and when the coffers recharge, I hope to buy an additional set of headphones that is especially forgiving of brighter pop/rock recordings. Any recommendations? I should have the Focal Elears in a few weeks - I'm on TTVJ's loaner rotation, so I'll be trying those out.
 
Enjoy your LAu's!
 
System Details: 

Playback chain: 

Synology DS213 NAS running MinimServer <- wired Gb network -> FMC (TP-Link MC200CM) <- MM fiber -> FMC <- Blue Jeans Cat 6a -> Auralic Aries Mini <- Curious 0.2m USB -> Intona Industrial <- Vbus2 -> <- Curious 0.2m USB -> W4S Recovery <- Cardas Clear USB -> Ayre Codex <- Ayre Signature XLR -> Cavalli Liquid Gold <- Moon Black Dragon balanced -> HD800 headphones
 
Power supplies: Teralink X1/X2 9V/1A LPS for downstream FMC, Jameco 5V/1A wart for upstream FMC, Auralic 16V/1A LPS, Breeze "el Cheapo" 9V 30W LPS for RUR
 
Power Cables: PS Audio AC-12 (wall to P5), Pangea AC-9SE MkII (Cavalli Amp), AC-14XL (Codex), AC-14SE MkII (all LPSes)
 
Power Source: PS Audio P5 PerfectWave Regenerator
 
Nov 7, 2016 at 8:53 PM Post #483 of 808
Having the dubious distinction of being the first on this thread to receive the current run of LAu's, I thought I'd give y'all an update.

I'm now well over 500 hours on the LAu, so it is well and truly burned in. The rest of the system has also stabilized. You can see my system details below. My personal story for this system is that I'm semi-retired, and I am now blessed with the time and funds to assemble and enjoy an end-game setup. For a variety of reasons, I've chosen to invest in a head-fi system.

As you can see from my system chain, I've invested both time, effort, and funds to tweak many elements of my chain. What does this have to do with the LAu? Well - the incredible resolution and accuracy of the LAu enabled the impact of every change and tweak to be audible, whether for better or for worse!

I've already written about the sonic qualities of the LAu up-thread, so I won't repeat myself. But, I will add a few observations:
  • The LAu and HD800 combination is outstanding. However, it does benefit from careful cable matching, especially interconnects.
  • After much comparison, I settled on a pair of used Ayre Signature 1m XLR balanced cables. Others I considered were: Pangea, Moon Black Dragon, Cardas Cross (used), Cardas Golden Cross (used). While I realize that finding the Ayres used is well nigh impossible, I am told that these are (almost) identical to the Cardas Golden Reference. These are now discontinued, but sold online at attractive discounts - google "Cardas legacy cables."
  • The effect of this matching is to bring out the very best of really good recordings. I have a lot of DSD content, being a classical fan. If you're into this stuff, you'll understand when I say listening to "O mensch" from Mahler's 3rd, for example, is like being transported to a different plane of existence.
  • On the flip side, the LAu/HD800 combo is never going to be forgiving of poor recordings. 
  • At some point, and when the coffers recharge, I hope to buy an additional set of headphones that is especially forgiving of brighter pop/rock recordings. Any recommendations? I should have the Focal Elears in a few weeks - I'm on TTVJ's loaner rotation, so I'll be trying those out.

Enjoy your LAu's!

[COLOR=3E3E3E]System Details: 


Playback chain: 
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[COLOR=3E3E3E]Synology DS213 [/COLOR]NAS[COLOR=3E3E3E] running MinimServer <- wired Gb network -> FMC (TP-Link MC200CM) <- MM fiber -> FMC <- Blue Jeans Cat 6a -> Auralic Aries Mini <- Curious 0.2m [/COLOR]USB[COLOR=3E3E3E] -> Intona Industrial <- Vbus2 -> <- Curious 0.2m [/COLOR]USB[COLOR=3E3E3E] -> W4S Recovery <- Cardas Clear [/COLOR]USB[COLOR=3E3E3E] -> Ayre Codex <- Ayre Signature XLR -> Cavalli Liquid Gold <- Moon Black Dragon balanced -> HD800 headphones[/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]
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[COLOR=3E3E3E]Power supplies: [/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]Teralink X1/X2 9V/1A [/COLOR]LPS[COLOR=3E3E3E] for downstream FMC, Jameco 5V/1A wart for upstream FMC, Auralic 16V/1A [/COLOR]LPS[COLOR=3E3E3E], Breeze "el Cheapo" 9V 30W [/COLOR]LPS[COLOR=3E3E3E] for RUR[/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]
[/COLOR]
 
[COLOR=3E3E3E]Power Cables: [/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]PS Audio AC-12 (wall to P5), Pangea AC-9SE MkII (Cavalli Amp), AC-14XL (Codex), AC-14SE MkII (all [/COLOR]LPSes[COLOR=3E3E3E])[/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]
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[COLOR=3E3E3E]Power Source: [/COLOR][COLOR=3E3E3E]PS Audio P5 PerfectWave Regenerator[/COLOR]


Thanks for the write up

I too am really enjoying the Lau with my T&A DSD DAC with the HD800S and putting the finishing touches on the system

I am using the Lihjtharmonics USB cable with my big system which is an MSB Diamond V. I see you are using the Curious USB.

Did you do any comparisons? How did you come to that cable. That is on my short list.

Thanks
 
Nov 7, 2016 at 9:28 PM Post #484 of 808
 
 
Enjoy your LAu's!
 
System Details: 

Playback chain: 

Synology DS213 NAS running MinimServer <- wired Gb network -> FMC (TP-Link MC200CM) <- MM fiber -> FMC <- Blue Jeans Cat 6a -> Auralic Aries Mini <- Curious 0.2m USB -> Intona Industrial <- Vbus2 -> <- Curious 0.2m USB -> W4S Recovery <- Cardas Clear USB -> Ayre Codex <- Ayre Signature XLR -> Cavalli Liquid Gold <- Moon Black Dragon balanced -> HD800 headphones
 
Power supplies: Teralink X1/X2 9V/1A LPS for downstream FMC, Jameco 5V/1A wart for upstream FMC, Auralic 16V/1A LPS, Breeze "el Cheapo" 9V 30W LPS for RUR
 
Power Cables: PS Audio AC-12 (wall to P5), Pangea AC-9SE MkII (Cavalli Amp), AC-14XL (Codex), AC-14SE MkII (all LPSes)
 
Power Source: PS Audio P5 PerfectWave Regenerator

I am now up to about 250 hours on my Lau.  I added a PS Audio Directstream DAC this last week.  My system: Auralic Aries Mini<- Directstream DAC<- Lau<- LCD-X/ETHER.  With the addition of the Direcstream the clarity and precision of this system is simply amazing.  I have been contemplating two of the pieces in your system, specifically the Auralic PSU and the PS Audio P5.  Does the Auralic PSU provide an audible difference for such a basic streamer as the Mini?  My Woo WA5 is gathering dust at the moment.  Good listening everyone!
 
Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 PM Post #485 of 808
Thanks for the write up

I too am really enjoying the Lau with my T&A DSD DAC with the HD800S and putting the finishing touches on the system

I am using the Lihjtharmonics USB cable with my big system which is an MSB Diamond V. I see you are using the Curious USB.

Did you do any comparisons? How did you come to that cable. That is on my short list.

Thanks

 
Hi @Priaptor
 
I have to say, I did not do careful USB cable comparisons.
 
I initially bought a used Cardas Clear USB cable from my Ayre dealer back when I bought my Codex. At the time, it certainly sounded clearer, tighter, and more coherent compared with the generic cable that I think came with my old Benchmark DAC1.
 
However, my subsequent USB experiments have been with tweaks like the Intona and W4S Recovery. I did not additionally vary USB cables, as that would have increased the number of experiments exponentially! Instead, I chose to buy short 0.2m lengths of Curious cable, since these were pretty widely praised.
 
So I can't say I've done head to head cable comparisons with the Curious cable.
 
You can read more about my experiments at this (now long!) thread on CA: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f22-networking-networked-audio-and-streaming/overall-isolation-network-universal-serial-bus-industry-standard-cables-connectors-and-communications-protocols-between-computers-and-electronic-devices-and-power-29916/
 
Nov 7, 2016 at 10:18 PM Post #486 of 808
  I am now up to about 250 hours on my Lau.  I added a PS Audio Directstream DAC this last week.  My system: Auralic Aries Mini<- Directstream DAC<- Lau<- LCD-X/ETHER.  With the addition of the Direcstream the clarity and precision of this system is simply amazing.  I have been contemplating two of the pieces in your system, specifically the Auralic PSU and the PS Audio P5.  Does the Auralic PSU provide an audible difference for such a basic streamer as the Mini?  My Woo WA5 is gathering dust at the moment.  Good listening everyone!

 
Yes!
 
Now, to be fair, I added the Auralic LPS very early on, when I was using the Mini's built-in DAC, and the LPS made a huge improvement. When using an external DAC, the difference isn't quite as profound, but it is still quite substantial. And it will be clearly audible with components of the quality of the Directstream (you lucky dog!) and the LAu.
 
EDIT: On the LPS, I should add that you have other choices to the Auralic. Some have reported even better SQ with the Sbooster BotW with Ultra LPS. Or you can go cheaper and get a "Breeze Audio" Chinese 16V/1A LPS on eBay, a category of LPSes affectionately called "el cheapo" on CA.
 
Was there also a question about the P5? Yes - the P5 made a huge difference too! Well worth it - especially if you can find one used.
 
Nov 9, 2016 at 3:00 AM Post #487 of 808
Cavali Audio Liquid Gold Review: 
 
 

 
 
 
Disclaimer:
 
i burned in the LAu for 200 hours before i start any serious session. then had few 2-3 hours sessions for my brain to get used to the sound sig before i intend to review it.
this review might see major changes on part 02. for this part i used TH900 alone to see the sound sig changes based on can and be able to spot it.

Equipment:
 
DAC: Chord Hugo TT.
Headphones: TH900 ,HE-6 Focal Utopia
Cables: Toxic Cable SW22 on TH900 and Toxic Cable BW on HE-6.
 
Overall sound sig:
 
The LAu is a SS headphone amplifier which tend to have engaging dynamics yet without boosting anything and staying honest to the recording. The overall sound sig while staying dynamics it retains the Cavali Audio sound sig which tend to have a hint of tube-ish sound without going to the warm side or sacrificing details or dynamics. 

Hugo TT:
 
i find the Hugo TT to have a very nice synergy with LAu, since both tend to have nice dynamics and control while maintaining superb musicality. they complete each other big time.
 

 
 
TH900 + LAu:
 
i bought the TH900 like four times, so i keep testing it with many setups, including WA7, WA7tp, WA5, Power Burson and Audio-GD Master 9. every amp had its up and down with TH900, 
there was always this one issue that made the combo less than a perfect. the closest to perfect (depend on preference wise, is the WA5.) 

With Cavali Audio i found that the TH900 to sound the best, its like when they build this amp they had TH900 on their minds or something. TH900's main issue are the mids, and tubes amps while they solve this issue they tend to lower the fun, specially on the Treble and the Bass won't be as controlled. WA5 solve that but you have to spend like 6000-7000$ in TOTL.

Sound stage:
 
i find the TH900 to have be so open with the LAu, bigger sound stage than what i got from fully upgraded WA5, the difference isn't huge between each but noticeable. it gave me a 3D like
sound sig which i never heard on any previous setup.

Bass:
 
The bass with TH900 and LAu is superb! the control is insane and i can pin point the bass notes in the sound, its sound so firm and controlled while staying fast. increasing the volume don't let the bass texture change or lose control.
 
also while being as punchy (SS amp punchy) its never get that fatigue feeling i get from any other SS amp + TH900 like having Power Burson amp on slightly louder volume for sometime. i am still surprised how can the LAu be so dynamic on fun but with almost zero fatigue and i can tell you its sound as dynamic and punchy as any other good SS amp.

The bass doesn't bleed into the mids, and i can enjoy mid centeric / vocal songs with out worrying about the TH900's Bass to disturb the relaxing sound, and i want to point that this thing is also cable dependent, and i find the cable changes with this setup to be noticeable even further.

Mids:
 
so the mids is the point that a lot of TH900 keep changing their setups. i find the LAu to be the best SS amp that i used my TH900 on. the mids are not laid back, nor forward. its fleshed out big time and never sounded as dense or fleshed out on any other setup.
 
i did consider warmer amps but i was always against losing Treble or Bass. LAu maintain both Fun and the mids have extra sweetness to it, the female vocals sound superb, and the best part i enjoyed the tube like mids and was able to listen to any song and not only fun bass/treble songs.
 
i enjoyed these mids and didn't find myself in a need for a tube amp, thanks to the sweetness / hint of tube like sound sig AKA cavali sound sig, its not sweeter or as dense as tube amps mids but never lacking which is hard to achive on a dynamic SS amp when paired with TH900.
 
 
Treble:
 
So many people go with wooden TH900's cups to lower the Treble brightness or make it mellow like. on the LAu this is not needed, you can plug your TH900 and enjoy a world class Treble. its extended, sparkly and with enough quantity to enjoy while never on the harsh side, this beast was able to tame the Bass so i expected the Treble to have a similar case.

LAu offered superb Treble quality as well, the shimmer is there and the Treble never roll off, i was able to enjoy it as much as i did on other SS amps, which was what i missed on many tube amps, so it offer a good Treble for anyone without worrying about switching to tubes.
 
the Treble with LAu is honest to the recording, i notice that it won't have the sparkling on every song like how it is on a typical SS amp, like the bass the treble was sparkling if the recording tend to have it this way, and when called upon it will be sparkly but without getting harsh or bright.

HE-6:
 
The LAu is hands the down the best headphone SS amp i used with HE-6, it can drive it without failing, i find that it suit the HE-6 more than WA5 itself, not that WA5 can't drive it, but LAu does it better and the SS amp help to control the HE-6 bass and add the SS punch, which got this magnetic planer crazy epic bass.
 
the mids on it is fleshed out and so smooth, the added sweetness of the LAu make it even more enjoyable, and the Treble is smoother although i am using open grill mod, so for people who like the fazor mod, worry not about the Treble of the open grill mod because its as fun but ten times smoother.
 
value wise HE-6 is the way to go, and i find it hard to get a better sound than this unless you are willing to buy Focal Utopia which is as expensive as this amp itself, it wasn't falling behind Utopia big time.
 
Focal Utopia:
 
Utopia wasn't hard to drive at all, which is impressive. the LAu + Utopia is a nice combo, the bass is punchier and more controlled than HE-6 and the Treble extended and sparkle even more while staying even smoother, the Utopia is a fast can yet the LAu is able to let Utopia fly into the space with authority.
 
the mids on Utopia is like the best part of this can yet combined with LAu its feels like i am listening to a tube amp from the sweetness i am getting, nevertheless the bass, treble, dynamics and speed make is still SS amp like. now i understand why @x-relic-x want to keep his LAu beside Chord DAVE, indeed LAu is a beast.
 
i would like to add that the micro details and micro dynamics is even more noticeable with this can, i was able to see what can the LAu do on its full potential, i was really shocked on few tracks when i was able to hear the small details but this time it was't vivid or overlapped by the song, it was present big time and more enjoyable.
 
Comparisons: 
 
Audio GD Master 9:
 
The M9 is hands down my favorite Class A amp, Class A amps tend to be on the warmer side, but what make M9 stand more is its super lush mids and transparency, also its more dynamic than other SS Class A amps. while the mids are on par with Tube amps (i enjoyed it as much as WA7tp) the dynamics wasn't the best.
 
LAu beats the M9 on Bass punch and control. also on Treble extension yet while it have sweet mids its never like the M9 nor as transparent.

WA5 (300B tubes):
 

 
i recently reviewed WA5 , and its hands down my favorite tube amp of all the time. the WA5 is a dynamic tube amp that tend to have different sound sigs depend on the tube sets used.
 
while WA5 is superb with its relaxing sound sig and over all balance, it cannot control the Bass like the LAu and tend to have less punch, the Treble extend a lot for a tube amp on the WA5 but never as sparkly and extended like the LAu, 
 
still the WA5 wins in the Mids department and its Treble is not bad at all for a tube amp, and anyone (who isn't a treble head) will find WA5 to be a TOTL amp that they can live with for ever. but again this depend on the preference. 
 
i forgot to point out that LAu tend to drive HE-6 even better, and with superb control, i tend to like the HE-6 on LAu more than WA5 fully upgraded. so if you are an HE-6 user then LAu is the way to go. it also provide more power than WA5 to your HE-6. HE-6 sounded better because of the bass control and punch which is hard for the WA5 to pass LAu's level on HE-6.
 
What to Expect from the LAu?
 
The LAu will provide you with superb SS amp dynamics, punchy controlled bass, with a very nice texture, the rumbling will be there.the Treble will sparkle and be extended to the max.
 
yet both Bass and Treble will never be harsh. its more dynamic than any Class A amp or neutral amps that tend to be on the warm side.

the best part is the over all hint of tube like sound sig. so imagine having a superb dynamic SS amp yet its slightly dipped into Tube sound sig which result in eliminating any sigh of harshness while maintaining a similar fun to SS amp. and without losing any Treble or Bass fun.
 
 
Nov 12, 2016 at 6:46 PM Post #488 of 808
Congrats Shini44! Glad your wait is over. So? Is it as good as I said it would be? :)
 
Nov 12, 2016 at 11:05 PM Post #489 of 808
lol ofc it is xD
 
so how many people are yet to get their LAu? customs?
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 10:48 AM Post #490 of 808
Cavali Audio Liquid Gold Review: 
Nice review , I'm running the Utopia direct into the Chord Dave sounds very good , I'm hoping to find the time to try my WA5LE next week with the Utopia .




(Note: sorry about the lighting on this photo, it look bad, i will update it next week) 

Disclaimer:

i burned in the LAu for 200 hours before i start any serious session. then had few 2-3 hours sessions for my brain to get used to the sound sig before i intend to review it.
this review might see major changes on part 02. for this part i used TH900 alone to see the sound sig changes based on can and be able to spot it.

Equipment:

DAC: Chord Hugo TT.
Headphones: TH900 ,HE-6 Focal Utopia
Cables: Toxic Cable SW22 on TH900 and Toxic Cable BW on HE-6.

Overall sound sig:

The LAu is a SS headphone amplifier which tend to have engaging dynamics yet without boosting anything and staying honest to the recording. The overall sound sig while staying dynamics it retains the Cavali Audio sound sig which tend to have a hint of tube-ish sound without going to the warm side or sacrificing details or dynamics. 

Hugo TT:

i find the Hugo TT to have a very nice synergy with LAu, since both tend to have nice dynamics and control while maintaining superb musicality. they complete each other big time.





TH900 + LAu:

i bought the TH900 like four times, so i keep testing it with many setups, including WA7, WA7tp, WA5, Power Burson and Audio-GD Master 9. every amp had its up and down with TH900, 
there was always this one issue that made the combo less than a perfect. the closest to perfect (depend on preference wise, is the WA5.) 


With Cavali Audio i found that the TH900 to sound the best, its like when they build this amp they had TH900 on their minds or something. TH900's main issue are the mids, and tubes amps while they solve this issue they tend to lower the fun, specially on the Treble and the Bass won't be as controlled. WA5 solve that but you have to spend like 6000-7000$ in TOTL.

Sound stage:

i find the TH900 to have be so open with the LAu, bigger sound stage than what i got from fully upgraded WA5, the difference isn't huge between each but noticeable. it gave me a 3D like
sound sig which i never heard on any previous setup.

Bass:

The bass with TH900 and LAu is superb! the control is insane and i can pin point the bass notes in the sound, its sound so firm and controlled while staying fast. increasing the volume don't let the bass texture change or lose control.

also while being as punchy (SS amp punchy) its never get that fatigue feeling i get from any other SS amp + TH900 like having Power Burson amp on slightly louder volume for sometime. i am still surprised how can the LAu be so dynamic on fun but with almost zero fatigue and i can tell you its sound as dynamic and punchy as any other good SS amp.


The bass doesn't bleed into the mids, and i can enjoy mid centeric / vocal songs with out worrying about the TH900's Bass to disturb the relaxing sound, and i want to point that this thing is also cable dependent, and i find the cable changes with this setup to be noticeable even further.

Mids:

so the mids is the point that a lot of TH900 keep changing their setups. i find the LAu to be the best SS amp that i used my TH900 on. the mids are not laid back, nor forward. its fleshed out big time and never sounded as dense or fleshed out on any other setup.

i did consider warmer amps but i was always against losing Treble or Bass. LAu maintain both Fun and the mids have extra sweetness to it, the female vocals sound superb, and the best part i enjoyed the tube like mids and was able to listen to any song and not only fun bass/treble songs.

i enjoyed these mids and didn't find myself in a need for a tube amp, thanks to the sweetness / hint of tube like sound sig AKA cavali sound sig, its not sweeter or as dense as tube amps mids but never lacking which is hard to achive on a dynamic SS amp when paired with TH900.


Treble:

So many people go with wooden TH900's cups to lower the Treble brightness or make it mellow like. on the LAu this is not needed, you can plug your TH900 and enjoy a world class Treble. its extended, sparkly and with enough quantity to enjoy while never on the harsh side, this beast was able to tame the Bass so i expected the Treble to have a similar case.


LAu offered superb Treble quality as well, the shimmer is there and the Treble never roll off, i was able to enjoy it as much as i did on other SS amps, which was what i missed on many tube amps, so it offer a good Treble for anyone without worrying about switching to tubes.

the Treble with LAu is honest to the recording, i notice that it won't have the sparkling on every song like how it is on a typical SS amp, like the bass the treble was sparkling if the recording tend to have it this way, and when called upon it will be sparkly but without getting harsh or bright.

HE-6:

To be updated in next week.

Focal Utopia:

Also to be updated as i will get it next week then burn it in.

Comparisons: 

Audio GD Master 9:

The M9 is hands down my favorite Class A amp, Class A amps tend to be on the warmer side, but what make M9 stand more is its super lush mids and transparency, also its more dynamic than other SS Class A amps. while the mids are on par with Tube amps (i enjoyed it as much as WA7tp) the dynamics wasn't the best.

LAu beats the M9 on Bass punch and control. also on Treble extension yet while it have sweet mids its never like the M9 nor as transparent.

WA5 (300B tubes):




i recently reviewed WA5 , and its hands down my favorite tube amp of all the time. the WA5 is a dynamic tube amp that tend to have different sound sigs depend on the tube sets used.

while WA5 is superb with its relaxing sound sig and over all balance, it cannot control the Bass like the LAu and tend to have less punch, the Treble extend a lot for a tube amp on the WA5 but never as sparkly and extended like the LAu, 

still the WA5 wins in the Mids department and its Treble is not bad at all for a tube amp, and anyone (who isn't a treble head) will find WA5 to be a TOTL amp that they can live with for ever. but again this depend on the preference. 

i forgot to point out that LAu tend to drive HE-6 even better, and with superb control, i tend to like the HE-6 on LAu more than WA5 fully upgraded. so if you are an HE-6 user then LAu is the way to go. it also provide more power than WA5 to your HE-6. HE-6 sounded better because of the bass control and punch which is hard for the WA5 to pass LAu's level on HE-6.

What to Expect from the LAu?

The LAu will provide you with superb SS amp dynamics, punchy controlled bass, with a very nice texture, the rumbling will be there.the Treble will sparkle and be extended to the max.

yet both Bass and Treble will never be harsh. its more dynamic than any Class A amp or neutral amps that tend to be on the warm side.


the best part is the over all hint of tube like sound sig. so imagine having a superb dynamic SS amp yet its slightly dipped into Tube sound sig which result in eliminating any sigh of harshness while maintaining a similar fun to SS amp. and without losing any Treble or Bass fun.

 

Note: English isn't my first language, so sorry about any grammar mistake and i hope this was easy to read.
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 11:32 AM Post #491 of 808
lol ofc it is xD

so how many people are yet to get their LAu? customs?


Me :mad:, UK Customs.
However, all sorted now so should get it next Tuesday. :D
My office is all setup, rack cleaned of dust, ready for the LAu to take its rightful place!
Even got 24 hours burn in on my Ether Flows but the 2Qute DAC will have 0 hours.
No matter, I will enjoy the journey :)
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 12:06 PM Post #493 of 808
Whats your thoughts on the TT standalone?

 
TT alone shine more with LCD series and similar warm-ish cans.
 
with bright cans it will make you feel like you need an external amp to sweeten the mids. (depend on what you listen too)
 
i you are a person that is used to run high end external amp then it will be hard to use the Hugo TT alone since using it with a TOTL external amp really sound like an upgrade.
 
that being said, some people are happy with even Hugo portable + TH900 (which i find so lacking)
 
TT as a DAC/pre-amp is hands down the best i have ever tried. at some point we gonna see Mojo TT will happen though but this one will lack dynamics and be more musical (compared to TT)

yet back to the subject, its preference + what headphones are you going to use with it. i saw you are using mr speaker, not sure if this one need a lot of power. 
 
i highly suggest you try it. or try Hugo portable. the TT is more like Hugo portable went Full Desktop mod. fuller mids, more power, and a whole upgrade with eliminating any former weak point.
 
in my case i had TH900 and HE-6, so an external amp was a must. 
 
i used my LCD-2 with TT + Liquid Carbon and found it to be too warm for my taste. with TT alone it was better IMO since i listen to J-pop and EDM. 
 
 
 
yes for TT's price you would be asking for it to be super!! but hey it can't outperform external amps that cost roughly the same right? and it make sense lool. regardless its a super dac and pre-amp for almost anything. including Tube amps or SS amps. 
 
sorry about the long reply, just trying to pass what i know xD
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 1:00 PM Post #494 of 808
TT alone shine more with LCD series and similar warm-ish cans.

with bright cans it will make you feel like you need an external amp to sweeten the mids. (depend on what you listen too)

i you are a person that is used to run high end external amp then it will be hard to use the Hugo TT alone since using it with a TOTL external amp really sound like an upgrade.

that being said, some people are happy with even Hugo portable + TH900 (which i find so lacking)

TT as a DAC/pre-amp is hands down the best i have ever tried. at some point we gonna see Mojo TT will happen though but this one will lack dynamics and be more musical (compared to TT)


yet back to the subject, its preference + what headphones are you going to use with it. i saw you are using mr speaker, not sure if this one need a lot of power. 

i highly suggest you try it. or try Hugo portable. the TT is more like Hugo portable went Full Desktop mod. fuller mids, more power, and a whole upgrade with eliminating any former weak point.

in my case i had TH900 and HE-6, so an external amp was a must. 

i used my LCD-2 with TT + Liquid Carbon and found it to be too warm for my taste. with TT alone it was better IMO since i listen to J-pop and EDM. 



yes for TT's price you would be asking for it to be super!! but hey it can't outperform external amps that cost roughly the same right? and it make sense lool. regardless its a super dac and pre-amp for almost anything. including Tube amps or SS amps. 

sorry about the long reply, just trying to pass what i know xD


Interesting comments and they make sense too.
At CanJam I listened to Hugo with lcd2 and was very impressed. I think you could easily stay there.
I would expect TT to be the same.
Problem is when you listen to an external amp like you say. Once you do this then it's difficult to forget the sound .
I think if you are going external amp, then you have flexibility with DAC selection. There are many out there for not too crazy money.
I am a big fan of Chord, I use DSX1000 steamer with my main system, it's truly wonderful.
It's great at the moment with so much choice :D
:)
 

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