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Dec 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM Post #14,431 of 149,685
wink said:
Forget the t-shirts, we want the coffee cups
Like this but.... with  (insert brand name here...) 
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM Post #14,432 of 149,685
People keep forgetting how small an outfit Schiit is.  They don't have someone just standing by to do T-shirt/mug art and crank out a couple hundred shirts and mugs to see how well they sell.
 
I got the impression both at RMAF and here that the pipeline is full of projects, and I want to see Vidar and the other Schiit, first.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 2:01 PM Post #14,433 of 149,685
frivolslistener said:
People keep forgetting how small an outfit Schiit is.  They don't have someone just standing by to do T-shirt/mug art and crank out a couple hundred shirts and mugs to see how well they sell.

I got the impression both at RMAF and here that the pipeline is full of projects, and I want to see Vidar and the other Schiit, first.
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All I want is my Schiit art download page. I will make my swag from there
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 2:45 PM Post #14,434 of 149,685
Dec 3, 2016 at 3:06 PM Post #14,435 of 149,685
For the record - another fine use for a Schiit Sys - as an adjustable volume attenuator Between a DAC and an amp with too much gain for your headphones.  In my current use, it allows a reasonable amount of volume travel on the amp.  Previously, I had 7 - 8:30 or so volume travel.  Insert Sys, set in the 12 to 1:30 range, and problem solved.  I can detect no sonic difference.  The Sys is just a cool and useful thing, and $49!
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 3:18 PM Post #14,437 of 149,685
In reply to USBlue's comment on my post.  Were you there at the RMAF Schiit room when the one Vidar overheated?  It displayed a flashing LED and that speaker went quiet.  I went out to the hallway to get Jason, and he came in, looked it over, and cycled power on it.  When he came out, he cheerfully said, "Well, we know the overheat protection logic works."
 
I suggested that a little elaboration on what the fault indicator was might be helpful -- something like a 7 segment display.  The pained look on Jason's face was priceless!
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 3:23 PM Post #14,438 of 149,685
frivolslistener said:
  In reply to USBlue's comment on my post.  Were you there at the RMAF Schiit room when the one Vidar overheated?  It displayed a flashing LED and that speaker went quiet.  I went out to the hallway to get Jason, and he came in, looked it over, and cycled power on it.  When he came out, he cheerfully said, "Well, we know the overheat protection logic works."
 
I suggested that a little elaboration on what the fault indicator was might be helpful -- something like a 7 segment display.  The pained look on Jason's face was priceless!
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It will be very, very hard to get the production Vidars to do this--where the show design ran 93 degrees C, the new design runs at 52 degrees C. No kidding.
 
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Dec 3, 2016 at 3:36 PM Post #14,439 of 149,685
theveterans said:
^ or Saga if you want 6SN7 Tube flavor
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in general - yes, and I'd move the Saga up front in the rack then, and use it as it was meant to be used - volume and switching.  I have the Sys siting on top of a Wyrd, sitting on the very back of a of a non-Schiit R2R Dac (for now, on of the last juggles in my gear will be to try a Bimby or Gumby in my system) feeding a non-Schiit tube hybrid amp - out of sight, out of mind for both of them.  Perfect for my set up.
frivolslistener said:
  In reply to USBlue's comment on my post.  Were you there at the RMAF Schiit room when the one Vidar overheated?  It displayed a flashing LED and that speaker went quiet.  I went out to the hallway to get Jason, and he came in, looked it over, and cycled power on it.  When he came out, he cheerfully said, "Well, we know the overheat protection logic works."
 
I suggested that a little elaboration on what the fault indicator was might be helpful -- something like a 7 segment display.  The pained look on Jason's face was priceless!
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Hah!  I bet.  A picture would have been priceless.  I've had the pleasure of meeting Jason extremely briefly at a couple of shows.  A very nice man, and I can picture the look.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 3:41 PM Post #14,440 of 149,685
frivolslistener said:
In reply to USBlue's comment on my post.  Were you there at the RMAF Schiit room when the one Vidar overheated?  It displayed a flashing LED and that speaker went quiet.  I went out to the hallway to get Jason, and he came in, looked it over, and cycled power on it.  When he came out, he cheerfully said, "Well, we know the overheat protection logic works."
 
I suggested that a little elaboration on what the fault indicator was might be helpful -- something like a 7 segment display.  The pained look on Jason's face was priceless!
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Dec 3, 2016 at 3:48 PM Post #14,441 of 149,685
jason stoddard said:
 
It will be very, very hard to get the production Vidars to do this--where the show design ran 93 degrees C, the new design runs at 52 degrees C. No kidding.
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Always good to hear.   We test a lot of our electronics in (among other things) a small environmental chamber where we can control temp and humidity and the temp swing can be from -40 C to 40 C.  FAA stuff and all that.  Do you guys have a chamber like that?
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 3:56 PM Post #14,442 of 149,685
frivolslistener said:
Always good to hear.   We test a lot of our electronics in (among other things) a small environmental chamber where we can control temp and humidity and the temp swing can be from -40 C to 40 C.  FAA stuff and all that.  Do you guys have a chamber like that?
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I work in a regulated environment as well (Medical Device, and FDA is every bit as strict as FAA, if not more so) and we do a lot of this type of testing.

I'd imagine - however - with the risks associated with failure being so much lower with a consumer device they don't have to go to as great lengths in testing.

Rather than a regulatory requirement, it becomes a cost/benefit assessment. What is the cost of doing the testing, vs. how high is the risk of a recall, and if a recall is needed how much is the total cost (physical, as well as in reputation/goodwill).

That being said, I've never worked in consumer electronics (or any consumer products at all) so this is just my outright guess.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 4:00 PM Post #14,443 of 149,685
aamefford said:
  Hah!  I bet.  A picture would have been priceless.  I've had the pleasure of meeting Jason extremely briefly at a couple of shows.  A very nice man, and I can picture the look.
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Well, in case you haven't noticed yet, I can be a bit of a smarta--.  When I met Jason, he was in the short hallway of the hotel demo room, and I said something like, "You must be Jason.  I can tell by the hair."  At least the lady from Salk thought it was funny...
 
More seriously, Jason is very personable and easy to talk to about what they're doing and why they are doing it, to any level of audience. It's nice to have that kind of interaction with the people who do the work and build the products.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 4:02 PM Post #14,444 of 149,685
mattlach said:
I work in a regulated environment as well (Medical Device, and FDA is every bit as strict as FAA, if not more so) and we do a lot of this type of testing.

I'd imagine - however - with the risks associated with failure being so much lower with a consumer device they don't have to go to as great lengths in testing.

Rather than a regulatory requirement, it becomes a cost/benefit assessment. What is the cost of doing the testing, vs. how high is the risk of a recall, and if a recall is needed how much is the total cost (physical, as well as in reputation/goodwill).

That being said, I've never worked in consumer electronics (or any consumer products at all) so this is just my outright guess.
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I emphasized the important words.  I just wonder because 93 C is awfully hot.    And there's only so much failure testing you can do with a heat gun.  I'm glad the amp will run much cooler now, but you should be able to test the fault protection logic somehow.   Even an insulated box with a couple reptile lights might do.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 5:00 PM Post #14,445 of 149,685
frivolslistener said:
I emphasized the important words.  I just wonder because 93 C is awfully hot.    And there's only so much failure testing you can do with a heat gun.  I'm glad the amp will run much cooler now, but you should be able to test the fault protection logic somehow.   Even an insulated box with a couple reptile lights might do.
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Yep...it'll Frey-a egg! :D
 
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