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May 9, 2016 at 1:07 AM Post #10,621 of 149,402
No.
My setup is near-field, but I can see where that could present a 'hitch in the git along'.
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That would be where a remote would be mighty handy.
 
But then I see the Rok as a near-field/headphone amp as it's primary focus.
Albeit a 100w/ch near-field amp, which is WAY overkill, but then it's the SQ that matters the most to me, so my bias is 'showing'.
 
 
So after the first 2 second wait, each mode toggles fairly quickly, almost to quickly, ≈ 1/2 second between them.
 
JJ
 
May 9, 2016 at 7:28 AM Post #10,622 of 149,402
Are these the correct WE417 valves mentioned for Lyr 2?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6S3P-EV-WE417-EC86-triode-tubes-Lot-of-4-pc-NOS-/291579288005?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
 
Can't find them in the compatibility list so thought I'd better check.
 
Thanks!!
 
Rich
 
May 9, 2016 at 8:06 AM Post #10,623 of 149,402
  Are these the correct WE417 valves mentioned for Lyr 2?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6S3P-EV-WE417-EC86-triode-tubes-Lot-of-4-pc-NOS-/291579288005?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
 
Can't find them in the compatibility list so thought I'd better check.
 
Thanks!!
 
Rich

No.
 
This is a good reference:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/755300/schiit-lyr-lyr-2-tube-compatibility-list
 
I would only use tubes on this list...
 
May 9, 2016 at 2:40 PM Post #10,624 of 149,402
  Are these the correct WE417 valves mentioned for Lyr 2?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6S3P-EV-WE417-EC86-triode-tubes-Lot-of-4-pc-NOS-/291579288005?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
 
Can't find them in the compatibility list so thought I'd better check.
 
Thanks!!
 
Rich

 
6S3P is single triode, Lyr uses double triode tubes.
 
May 9, 2016 at 2:45 PM Post #10,625 of 149,402
  Are these the correct WE417 valves mentioned for Lyr 2?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6S3P-EV-WE417-EC86-triode-tubes-Lot-of-4-pc-NOS-/291579288005?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
 
Can't find them in the compatibility list so thought I'd better check.
 
Thanks!!
 
Rich


Oops, WE396...brain fade. 2C51, 5670...all these types are opened up for use in Lyr 2, Mjolnir 2, Vali 2, etc. with a pin adapter.
 
Like these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191636111735?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true
 
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May 11, 2016 at 9:43 AM Post #10,628 of 149,402
Sone guys need to modify.   I made a volume knob for my Asgard2 thats about 6 inches long because I have the Amp mounted deep under my desk, I made it out of Wood and kinda oval in shape ( like an Audio Research knob ).  I can't see the Amp or the knob, I operate it by "feel", it stays on ( now that I know the life expectancy of the Caps, I may decide to install a desk-top power sw. ).  
 
I knew two guys that did mods for the early 1980s Audiophile community, in southeastern Michigan : Mel Rader and Alan Bohne.  Both were Engineering types, both had basements filled with parts. Visiting them was like going in the warehouse at Newark Electronics Supply.  These guys could rebuild Pre-Amps to high levels of performance, they brought their "projects" to my Esoteric Audio Salon to "show-off" and performance check against my best stuff in my audition room.  It was good fun.  I was also a supplier to these lads because I was a "Full-Line" Monster Dealer and sold "Litz" wire by the spool ( these guys would rewire Tonearms with Litz ).  
 
However, the innards of these guys completed projects looked nothing like the clean look you'd see if you took the cover off an Asgard2 ( not that I've done that ) and it wasn't uncommon to see smoke signals rising up from one of their designs as they plug the darn thing in, kinda like a "poofffff" experience accompanied by a horrible smell ( that clings for a few hours ).  Still, they have hit Home-runs, from time to time. 
 
I'd rather not buy something that "needs" to be modified, may god-bless those that do!
 
Thanks for the info about the life expectancy of my Asgard Caps., I'll turn it off from now on, this Amp is a "keeper" ! 
 
Tony in Michigan
 
ps.  Will Mike or Jason "attempt" an explanation for the need of "High"-Powered Headphone Amplifiers?  My Sennheisers can hit "painful" levels with just a handful of milliwatts ( maybe 5 or 6 ).  I'm prepared to be wrong in my estimation but the concept of owning a Lyr is frightening, although they seem to sound wonderful when I try them at a Meet.  
 
May 11, 2016 at 11:57 AM Post #10,629 of 149,402
Sone guys need to modify.   I made a volume knob for my Asgard2 thats about 6 inches long because I have the Amp mounted deep under my desk, I made it out of Wood and kinda oval in shape ( like an Audio Research knob ).  I can't see the Amp or the knob, I operate it by "feel", it stays on ( now that I know the life expectancy of the Caps, I may decide to install a desk-top power sw. ).  
 
I knew two guys that did mods for the early 1980s Audiophile community, in southeastern Michigan : Mel Rader and Alan Bohne.  Both were Engineering types, both had basements filled with parts. Visiting them was like going in the warehouse at Newark Electronics Supply.  These guys could rebuild Pre-Amps to high levels of performance, they brought their "projects" to my Esoteric Audio Salon to "show-off" and performance check against my best stuff in my audition room.  It was good fun.  I was also a supplier to these lads because I was a "Full-Line" Monster Dealer and sold "Litz" wire by the spool ( these guys would rewire Tonearms with Litz ).  
 
However, the innards of these guys completed projects looked nothing like the clean look you'd see if you took the cover off an Asgard2 ( not that I've done that ) and it wasn't uncommon to see smoke signals rising up from one of their designs as they plug the darn thing in, kinda like a "poofffff" experience accompanied by a horrible smell ( that clings for a few hours ).  Still, they have hit Home-runs, from time to time. 
 
I'd rather not buy something that "needs" to be modified, may god-bless those that do!
 
Thanks for the info about the life expectancy of my Asgard Caps., I'll turn it off from now on, this Amp is a "keeper" ! 
 
Tony in Michigan
 
ps.  Will Mike or Jason "attempt" an explanation for the need of "High"-Powered Headphone Amplifiers?  My Sennheisers can hit "painful" levels with just a handful of milliwatts ( maybe 5 or 6 ).  I'm prepared to be wrong in my estimation but the concept of owning a Lyr is frightening, although they seem to sound wonderful when I try them at a Meet.  


AFAIK a fair few planars need a lot of power to sound their best. Most of the Audeze are rated up to 15 watts maximum
 
May 11, 2016 at 12:23 PM Post #10,630 of 149,402
 
 
ps.  Will Mike or Jason "attempt" an explanation for the need of "High"-Powered Headphone Amplifiers?  My Sennheisers can hit "painful" levels with just a handful of milliwatts ( maybe 5 or 6 ).  I'm prepared to be wrong in my estimation but the concept of owning a Lyr is frightening, although they seem to sound wonderful when I try them at a Meet.  

I'd like to hear this too! Especially in regards to the HE-6. Why do they need to use speaker amps that could easily destroy them if turned up more? Does 'headroom' matter? I've heard plenty of subjective arguments for and against but haven't come across much hard evidence on either end of the debate.
 
May 11, 2016 at 12:31 PM Post #10,632 of 149,402
Rule #1 of audio: you can't have too much power.
Rule #2: see rule #1.
 
I'm sure I've gone over this in detail in several chapters, but the bottom line is: if you can have extra power—without the downside of noise—there's no reason not to have it. 
 
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May 11, 2016 at 1:14 PM Post #10,633 of 149,402
  Rule #1 of audio: you can't have too much power.
Rule #2: see rule #1.

 
I'm sure I've gone over this in detail in several chapters, but the bottom line is: if you can have extra power—without the downside of noise—there's no reason not to have it.


Allow me to add another one: Having all the power it can get makes Ragnarok future-proof. Who knows what the next stupid-hard to drive HE6 will be?
 
This said, I too am uneasy having so much power at the tip of a knob...
 
May 11, 2016 at 1:17 PM Post #10,634 of 149,402
In my experiences, more power is always better, especially when it comes to planar magnetic headphones and ribbon speakers. My Magnepan Tympani 1D speakers didn't sound great until I put 600 watts at 4 ohms into them, and my LCD-2 has loved all of the power I can give it.
 

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