Hifiman he-400i Impressions and Discussion
Mar 22, 2015 at 10:32 AM Post #3,781 of 14,386
Thanks!
The choice was based on wanting a 24bit solid state amplifier with a built in DAC, and in this case, DSD capable.  That was about it other than the fact Fostex has been around for decades.


Don't forget that amps with black paint have higher sound quality than amps with just plain silver metal.
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 10:51 AM Post #3,782 of 14,386
 
I don't know if I would call the HE400i easier to drive than a HD-650, IMO they are both harder to drive than the average consumer HP.  For me I like the low end of the HE-400i but the mids/highs of the HD-650 so depending on what type of music I want to listen to i'll pick the headphone best suited most of the time.

 
Technically HD-650 is easier to drive than HE-400i. it only requires 1/3 of the power required by HE-400i at the same SPL. The problem with HD-650 on portable devices like DAPs is these devices may not have enough voltage swing to drive it. High impedance load needs more voltage than what portable devices can supply.
 
I have a Beyer T1. It is very sensitive at 102 dB/mW compared to HE-400i @ 93 dB/mW. But HE-400i sounds very good and loud enough than my T1 directly out of Fiio X5 or iBasso DX90. The T1 simply sound underpowered on both DAPs.
 
On my Desktop O2+ODA, my T1 goes loud earlier than HE-400i.
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 10:57 AM Post #3,783 of 14,386
 
Technically HD-650 is easier to drive than HE-400i. it only requires 1/3 of the power required by HE-400i at the same SPL. The problem with HD-650 on portable devices like DAPs is these devices may not have enough voltage swing to drive it. High impedance load needs more voltage than what portable devices can supply.
 
I have a Beyer T1. It is very sensitive at 102 dB/mW compared to HE-400i @ 93 dB/mW. But HE-400i sounds very good and loud enough than my T1 directly out of Fiio X5 or iBasso DX90. The T1 simply sound underpowered on both DAPs.
 
On my Desktop O2+ODA, my T1 goes loud earlier than HE-400i.

 


53mw needed for hd650 and 158mw needed for he-400i at 115db loudness
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 3:49 PM Post #3,785 of 14,386
You said they only sell one case, so it doesnt seem like you have that much choice.


I wrote to Hifiman for a definitive answer... which is likely what I should have done to begin with.
Items have been removed and later added back to their web  site before...
There are always choices... I can buy another type of case.
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 4:14 PM Post #3,786 of 14,386
Out of all the choices I've gotten the he 400i and I love the sound I heard on the reference model in minidisk with the Oppo HA-1 and I was thinking if there is any combo amp/dac or anything that would give similar quality sound. I was thinking about what HarleyZK said with getting the schiit Modi and schiit vail 1 but if I did choose to save up witch combo would be best. Also why do I need a DAC along with an amp? 
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 4:57 PM Post #3,787 of 14,386
   
Technically HD-650 is easier to drive than HE-400i. it only requires 1/3 of the power required by HE-400i at the same SPL. The problem with HD-650 on portable devices like DAPs is these devices may not have enough voltage swing to drive it. High impedance load needs more voltage than what portable devices can supply.
 
I have a Beyer T1. It is very sensitive at 102 dB/mW compared to HE-400i @ 93 dB/mW. But HE-400i sounds very good and loud enough than my T1 directly out of Fiio X5 or iBasso DX90. The T1 simply sound underpowered on both DAPs.
 
On my Desktop O2+ODA, my T1 goes loud earlier than HE-400i.

That's correct, but even from the iDSD micro I find He400i sounds better than HD650 regardless of the music genre.
 
Mar 22, 2015 at 5:09 PM Post #3,788 of 14,386
If i would purchase either .. I would be sitting at my desk with my Asgard 2 / bifrost combo. I don't really care about mobility.. As i've said before .. the final decision maker is how the earpads fit
 
Mar 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM Post #3,790 of 14,386
Amps/Dac for Hifiman he 400i any ideas are wellcome. $250-380
 
Schiit Stack Magni 2 and Modi 2
 
Schiit Stack vali and modi 2
 

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]O2+ODAC Combo. AKA= Mayflower Objective2 ODAC Combo[/color]

 
Mar 23, 2015 at 4:18 PM Post #3,794 of 14,386
  Do I contact them on there email, phone or something to buy the product? and which out of the NFB-11 and 15 sounds better with gaming and making songs come to life?

By email - audio-gd@126.com for all inquiries, orders or questions 
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I think the NFB-15 would be better for immersive gaming and enjoyable listenings [more musical]. The NFB-11 would be better for 'sound-whoring', detail picking in games, and critical listening [more realistic/'true to life']. Depends on preference 
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Mar 23, 2015 at 10:09 PM Post #3,795 of 14,386
  Amps/Dac for Hifiman he 400i any ideas are wellcome. $250-380
 
Schiit Stack Magni 2 and Modi 2
 
Schiit Stack vali and modi 2
 

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]O2+ODAC Combo. AKA= Mayflower Objective2 ODAC Combo[/color]


modi 2/vali.
 
No need to spend any more than this.
 

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