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Originally Posted by garunamodi View Post

A full comparison would be greatly appreciated, especially as the HD6x0s and the HE400i are big competitors in their price range.
Yes, I plan to comment in more depth, I have the 400i for 30 day loaner trial, and I'm just at day 4 now. Who knows what may happen?!?
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In Europe HD600 is half the price of the HE-400i.

I just checked and think it is roughly 250 Euros/400$, that's not too much of a difference.

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Yes, I plan to comment in more depth, I have the 400i for 30 day loaner trial, and I'm just at day 4 now. Who knows what may happen?!?

Bill, would love to read your thoughts regarding a comparison between your 650 and the 400i?!?!?
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Will do. There's a small chance I'll be in Nashville in September. When is that meet? I could bring 400i...
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I just checked and think it is roughly 250 Euros/400$, that's not too much of a difference.
Maybe you have different tax %. For me with shipping, taxes and customs fees 500$ always becomes 500€, its almost a rule. I shouldn't have generalized the whole of Europe but for me these two headphones are not in the same price bracket.
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Will do. There's a small chance I'll be in Nashville in September. When is that meet? I could bring 400i...

Bill, the meet is Sept. 20th in Franklin, hope you can make it Matt will also be there!
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Originally Posted by garunamodi View Post
 

A full comparison would be greatly appreciated, especially as the HD6x0s and the HE400i are big competitors in their price range.


I have the HD580 with 600 grills cables, The HD600, and HD650, and HE-400. At some point I will try to write something up comparing all of them to the 400i.

For now I am getting some time on the 400i so no one thinks that I did not burn them in enough before doing a comparison.

 

I wish I had some HE-560s to compare, but that is not happening for now.

Just a few initial thoughts. I put the 400i on and listened for awhile. I had lots of things to be doing so I connected them directly so my Sansa Fuze. I know you folks will gag at that, but I like the Fuze for what it is.

Normally when I change phones (I have been listening most to the HD 600 and the Fidelio X1 recently, but also quite a bit to the RE-400 IEMs) It takes a while for me to adjust to a new sound signature. I put the 400i on and just thought... I like these, I like them quite well !! Later I put the Fuze LOD into my C5D to the 400i. Yes it had more authority, but not so much change that I would not enjoy  listening straight out of the Fuze for casual portable listening from time to time.

 

I spent a little time this morning comparing my HE 400 to the 400i. The 400 has Jergpads and a grill mod like what thurstonX did. The two really have significantly different sound signatures. With the gill mod and pads, the 400 is more airy for sure. The bass is biased lower than the 400i. Maybe this is the basis of some comments about the 400i having less bass. I think the 400i is much more neutral than the 400. Voices are closer and, to me, more real sounding.  the same with piano, strings, guitar and horns... basically everything. I, after listening to some well recorded bass, do not think that they are at all bass shy. Bass sounds, again, more like what I hear at a concert, or through my (pretty well optimized and tuned) 7.1 system in a 40 by 30 foot room. I would call the 400i just a tiny bit on the warm side of neutral. A very pleasing sound for my taste !

 

BTW all of my listening recently has been foobar>ODAC> My new Polaris> into whatever phones. Mostly FLAC 44/16, with some 24/96 thrown in. 

 

I have a few other DACs and amps to try...

Darn, so many combinations, so little time.

 

So far I am really liking the HE-400i. I will try to get more analytical and throw more phones into the mix as I have time. For now I am just having fun listening. That is what this is all about... Yes?


Edited by mandrake50 - Today at 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post


Maybe you have different tax %. For me with shipping, taxes and customs fees 500$ always becomes 500€, its almost a rule. I shouldn't have generalized the whole of Europe but for me these two headphones are not in the same price bracket.

 

Yes, HE-400i is going to cost 500EUR in Europe... Everywhere unless Hifiman will do some sort of magic to lower prices for us, Europeans. And yes - HD600 is like 2x cheaper than HE-400i is going to be.


Edited by Ron12 - Today at 1:52 pm
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