Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jul 17, 2015 at 3:11 PM Post #5,236 of 63,836
  Hello guys, got a question for you. I've been into headphone for a bit now and just purchased my first batch of IEM's (see profile if interested) and I like them all. Each one has its advantages and disadvantages. If I had to pick a favorite right now I'd pick the Piston 2 because its clean and clear with good low end. My questions is I have small ears and\or canals and always have to use the small tips.
I want to try a Kz IEM but am unsure which one would be best most likely having to use the small tips. I listen from folk to metal genres and have several amps and DAC's to try with them. I'm leaning toward the ED9 but I've read they might be a bit heavy...the ATE look cool but I've never worn the wire above my ear.
I will be sitting in a comfy chair listening to real Cd's, no computer involved except the one on my lap. I am more of an analytical listener but appreciate good low end. Out of my current crop of full size cans I mainly listen to my HD600 & DT880.
 
thank for any and all input
 
btw at these prices I would be open to getting a couple of models from the Kz line.

I'm not sure your budget CADCAM but if shopped right you can get the ED9,ED10 and ATE for right at $30 US shipped and have an excellent collection of iem's that have a different sig with the 2 filters on ED9's and depending on your DAP EQ options you can really stretch sound signatures and find them all pretty sweet
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 That's my story/suggestion/$.02 and I'm sticking to it
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 If I were getting just one I would lean to the ED9 just for the fact the filters can be swapped
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Jul 17, 2015 at 3:17 PM Post #5,237 of 63,836
I believe this has been posted in the past BUT, it caught my eye (alongside ED10/LP3).
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-High-Quality-Original-KZ-IE80-Noise-Cancelling-Deep-Sound-3-5mm-In-Ear-Stereo-Music/32370262387.html
 
Has anyone tried these? It's a direct clone of IE80, everything on them, i wouldn't be surprised even if the same driver is used as if i remember correctly the actual IE80 driver is out there for a very low price(or at least a very good clone of it).
 
Jul 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM Post #5,238 of 63,836
  I believe this has been posted in the past BUT, it caught my eye (alongside ED10/LP3).
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-High-Quality-Original-KZ-IE80-Noise-Cancelling-Deep-Sound-3-5mm-In-Ear-Stereo-Music/32370262387.html
 
Has anyone tried these? It's a direct clone of IE80, everything on them, i wouldn't be surprised even if the same driver is used as if i remember correctly the actual IE80 driver is out there for a very low price(or at least a very good clone of it).

Nope but it sure looks like they are using Havi B3 shells
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Jul 17, 2015 at 3:45 PM Post #5,239 of 63,836
  I believe this has been posted in the past BUT, it caught my eye (alongside ED10/LP3).
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-High-Quality-Original-KZ-IE80-Noise-Cancelling-Deep-Sound-3-5mm-In-Ear-Stereo-Music/32370262387.html
 
Has anyone tried these? It's a direct clone of IE80, everything on them, i wouldn't be surprised even if the same driver is used as if i remember correctly the actual IE80 driver is out there for a very low price(or at least a very good clone of it).

It's not a direct clone, nor the original drivers. It's been available for well over two years and does not have the quality of the recent KZ releases.
 
Jul 17, 2015 at 5:07 PM Post #5,240 of 63,836
I have all the different Piston models from Xiaomi (except Piston 3). And, though the Pistons were great in there prime, ATE, ED9, and ED10 are much better in SQ and for a lower price. It also sets a new bar in quality and sound for there price. ATE has way better soundstage and micro-details, ED9 has also great soundstage and vivid clarity on top, and ED10 provides a similar signature to the Pistons 2, but much better in every level.

....This is just my 2 cents on this matter. :wink:


I'm hoping more comments will come this way on the ED10's.
I agree, ed10's remind me of the sound magic e80, with a little less detail. Excellent low end. Those stiff cables though!
 
Jul 17, 2015 at 6:55 PM Post #5,241 of 63,836
Spent the day painting walls at the rental house.  Listened to:
 
iPod mini 32GB - FiiO L9 LOD - FiiO E11K (A3) - KZ ED9 and dt3.
The dt3 win again for this type of use.
SQ and fit/weight are just right.
 
YMMV,
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Jul 17, 2015 at 8:35 PM Post #5,242 of 63,836
Disappointed in Piston 3 ? They should be in every way superior to P2 and have great reviews
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Maybe You just have gotten too used to P2 signature?
What exactly didn`t You like about them? How long did You use them before You gave up on them (brain burn-in also takes time)?
What source gear do You have? Galaxy S3 can be "limiting" SQ factor probably if that was used to compare.
Anyway, if You are disappointed in P3 then maybe You should look something with same signature? KZ R35 is very similar to P2.


I got too used to piston 2 sound signature? Maybe.
Piston 3.. I didn't like the weak isolation and the bass is not strong. I used like... Less than 5hrs? And everytime i wear it for a walk, it dropped from my ears many times which is reallly annoying.

How dafuq did u know im using galaxy s3 ... Lmao dude its $20iem.... If galaxy s3 is the limiting factor... I guess ill nvr buy other iems @_@ Well guess i shall stick to my piston 2 and call it a day~...

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Jul 17, 2015 at 8:40 PM Post #5,243 of 63,836
I got too used to piston 2 sound signature? Maybe.
Piston 3.. I didn't like the weak isolation and the bass is not strong. I used like... Less than 5hrs? And everytime i wear it for a walk, it dropped from my ears many times which is reallly annoying.

How dafuq did u know im using galaxy s3... Lmao dude its $20iem.... If galaxy s3 is the limiting factor... I guess ill nvr buy other iems @@ oh.. Well guess i shall stick to my piston 2 and call it a day~...

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You listed your source on your profile page and tapatalk writes your signatures, where it says from what device it was sent. Maybe you can be more polite next time, maybe Coil can be twice your age.
 
Jul 17, 2015 at 8:42 PM Post #5,244 of 63,836
You listed your source on your profile page and tapatalk writes your signatures, where it says from what device it was sent. Maybe you can be more polite next time, maybe Coil can be twice your age.

Polite? I'm sorry if i sound rude. I was just shocked. Didn't mean to scold or anything. And yes. I'm very young. So forgive me if i sound immature 
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Jul 18, 2015 at 9:01 AM Post #5,247 of 63,836
I got too used to piston 2 sound signature? Maybe.
Piston 3.. I didn't like the weak isolation and the bass is not strong. I used like... Less than 5hrs? And everytime i wear it for a walk, it dropped from my ears many times which is reallly annoying.

How dafuq did u know im using galaxy s3 ... Lmao dude its $20iem.... If galaxy s3 is the limiting factor... I guess ill nvr buy other iems @_@ Well guess i shall stick to my piston 2 and call it a day~...

Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk

Never really understood the logic of huge source dependency, especially in this thread where we discuss KZ IEMs.

If you find x earphone sounding better than y then your source is culprit? No, must be your sound preference, earphone fit and possible manufacturing defects.

I'm strictly voicing this opinion under context of this thread. In case of high end earphones I've seen that source is a factor of much larger magnitude.
 
Jul 18, 2015 at 11:08 AM Post #5,248 of 63,836
Never really understood the logic of huge source dependency, especially in this thread where we discuss KZ IEMs.

If you find x earphone sounding better than y then your source is culprit? No, must be your sound preference, earphone fit and possible manufacturing defects.

I'm strictly voicing this opinion under context of this thread. In case of high end earphones I've seen that source is a factor of much larger magnitude.


I second the fit issues. Initial listening with the ed9 and anv were pretty bad, harsh and no bass. I was wondering they had been vastly overhyped lol. However, ed9 sounded really good when I pushed them deeper (though still a little too bright and thin for me). For anv, owing to the shape, i couldn't really push them deeper so ended up using spinfits for better seal. Now they're my favourites alongside the Havi. Sound is perfect after relatively increasing the mids by 4dB.
 
Jul 18, 2015 at 11:18 AM Post #5,249 of 63,836
I second the fit issues. Initial listening with the ed9 and anv were pretty bad, harsh and no bass. I was wondering they had been vastly overhyped lol. However, ed9 sounded really good when I pushed them deeper (though still a little too bright and thin for me). For anv, owing to the shape, i couldn't really push them deeper so ended up using spinfits for better seal. Now they're my favourites alongside the Havi. Sound is perfect after relatively increasing the mids by 4dB.

 
Ye getting the correct eartips is really crucial. I tried the ED9 with the included tips but they all had extremely poor fit, so i had to use my shure olives. Now they are my favorite budget IEM.
 
Jul 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM Post #5,250 of 63,836
Never really understood the logic of huge source dependency, especially in this thread where we discuss KZ IEMs.

If you find x earphone sounding better than y then your source is culprit? No, must be your sound preference, earphone fit and possible manufacturing defects.

I'm strictly voicing this opinion under context of this thread. In case of high end earphones I've seen that source is a factor of much larger magnitude.
I agree, i believe fit & tip selection are the main factors in sound. i get the best performance with my kz's from my spiral dot's. But with my sound magics i use comply's. It's all trial & error. It's also what this hobby so enjoyable, cheers
 

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