[peter123]

My Soundmagic E80 review is up:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/products/soundmagic-e80-in-ear-monitor-headphone/reviews/13683

 

[theuprising]

  Outperform.. confusing word. Yes, to me KZ ATE sound better than T1E. That's according to my personal sound preference and some other factors like fit and comfort.
KZ ATE has smoother, full bodied sound and beautiful vocal rendering ability. I have rated T1E lower in my list because the highs are bit sharp for me and mids are little recessed. 
 
One thing for sure that I can tell is, vocals are better on ATE. Highs and Lows will be matter of preference. Oh and fit wise T1E could be slightly challenging.

Why do you rate the B3 pro so low? I hear its at LEAST equivalent to the Tenore. But having that KZ ate be better than it???

 

[Inszy]

Because they aren't too good (graphs confirm this).

 

[peter123]

  Why do you rate the B3 pro so low? I hear its at LEAST equivalent to the Tenore. But having that KZ ate be better than it???

Beacuse of personal prefernce?

 

[peter123]

  Because they aren't too good (graphs confirm this).

What a menaingless post!

 

[ZapX629]

  Because they aren't too good (graphs confirm this).

Graphs also tell you, at most, 1/3 of the story.

 

[Inszy]

As I wrote: graphs only confirm this.

 

[AngelOfMercy]

My Soundmagic E80 review is up:


 


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Excellent review. Pretty spot on for me except for the micro details thing. These are very detailed IEMs, that exceed my A73 and are rival to my FX850 in delivering detail retrieval that's clear and present. Otherwise, well done.

 

[peter123]

Excellent review. Pretty spot on for me except for the micro details thing. These are very detailed IEMs, that exceed my A73 and are rival to my FX850 in delivering detail retrieval that's clear and present. Otherwise, well done.

Thank! Maybe I'm spoiled with the CKR line in micro details, to my ears they're certainly a step up from the E80's. Or maybe we just here them differently

 

[AngelOfMercy]

Thank! Maybe I'm spoiled with the CKR line in micro details, to my ears they're certainly a step up from the E80's. Or maybe we just here them differently

No, the CKR's are great. A tad too much bass for me, but it seems many of you are bass head audiophiles lol I've weaned myself off bass, or let me be more accurate...MID bass.

 

[peter123]

No, the CKR's are great. A tad too much bass for me, but it seems many of you are bass head audiophiles lol

I've weaned myself off bass, or let me be more accurate...MID bass.

Lol, that's certainly the first time I've been called a basshead

 

[CoiL]

 

  Outperform.. confusing word. Yes, to me KZ ATE sound better than T1E. That's according to my personal sound preference and some other factors like fit and comfort.
KZ ATE has smoother, full bodied sound and beautiful vocal rendering ability. I have rated T1E lower in my list because the highs are bit sharp for me and mids are little recessed. 
 
One thing for sure that I can tell is, vocals are better on ATE. Highs and Lows will be matter of preference. Oh and fit wise T1E could be slightly challenging.

Why do you rate the B3 pro so low? I hear its at LEAST equivalent to the Tenore. But having that KZ ate be better than it???

 

Excellent review. Pretty spot on for me except for the micro details thing. These are very detailed IEMs, that exceed my A73 and are rival to my FX850 in delivering detail retrieval that's clear and present. Otherwise, well done.

Thank! Maybe I'm spoiled with the CKR line in micro details, to my ears they're certainly a step up from the E80's. Or maybe we just here them differently

 
 
As Eisen already said - matter of personal preferences, hearing, gear etc. Many ppl just tend to think that their preference is more "audiophile" and "correct" than others and unfortunately some just start to oppose and argue all about it.
In the end it is all very subjective and actual point is to find great gear match for Yourself not follow bunch of ppl claiming one product being "best" or certain "step-up" from something.
Yes, there probably are so-called "step-up" from everything according to person personal preference but then at some point comes in the price vs. SQ "jump quanitity" compared to Your old favourite which in real world can actually be very small and quite "pointless".
For example with my gear I have found almost perfect setup for myself and quite cheaply (luckily). Almost because I know there certainly are better gear out there. But do I really need it when I feel(hear) everything almost near perfect for my own ears/taste? When I do not get any feeling that something is "wrong" with setup SQ and I listen with full joy, then what`s the point of so called "step-up"?
Sorry if I say this all out loud but at some point this all "audiophile" stuff gets meaningless and ppl forget to enjoy music and end up in land of analytical/critical "audiophile" listening without turning actual attention to musical wholeness.
Personally I think the sweet spot is when "audiophile" and Music melt into each-other and create wholeness - the point where You hear great details etc. but don`t find Yourself analysing but enjoying it all.
 
JMHSO

 

 

[HraD2]

Got those EarMax 610 today 

 Compared to DGS100 and KZ ED9, ER610 are crap. No bass, uncomfortable highs, sound is thud and like from pipe. 

 

[EISENbricher]

Yup, the comparison of earphones in my signature is totally based on my personal liking. I prefer slightly warm sound with deep bass and smooth, non sibilant and airy highs. For mids I prefer those neither too recessed nor spiky. 

 

[AngelOfMercy]

Lol, that's certainly the first time I've been called a basshead

lol I only say that because I've bit on a few earphones that were recommended by the great folks here, including you, and the ones that were described as having a more balanced sound, or more forward mids, still turned out to have some pretty beefy bass. Not that I'm opposed to bass, just that the majority of the music I listen to doesn't require thuds and beef.