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Mar 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM Post #15,136 of 35,472
   
Yes, you can get used to a "good" life really fast, fine caviar of DUNUs and Fidues lol!!!
 
And to answer your original question before you edited it, DITA only gets dusted off whenever I need it for review comparison (the original intent of that review loaner).  I'm a bit obsessed right now with UM Pro 50 and testing it with different cables.  Or I should say, I'm more obsessed with cables than actual IEM lol!!!


I am already craving for some fidue a83 with a side dish of DN2000J :p  Joking. Maybe. I hate head fi lol
 
Does the Um Pro 50 use standard MMCX cables? Are you using custom cables from cable makers? I plan to get another cable for my Z5 but its actually the XBA H3 cable as the memory wire is better imo
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 5:01 PM Post #15,137 of 35,472
 
I am already craving for some fidue a83 with a side dish of DN2000J :p  Joking. Maybe. I hate head fi lol
 
Does the Um Pro 50 use standard MMCX cables? Are you using custom cables from cable makers? I plan to get another cable for my Z5 but its actually the XBA H3 cable as the memory wire is better imo

@RedJohn456 I'm eying the Fidues also, just got some RHA-T10's this morning and I'm liking them also.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 5:09 PM Post #15,138 of 35,472
  @RedJohn456 I'm eying the Fidues also, just got some RHA-T10's this morning and I'm liking them also.

 
True dat! Dem fiddles are so enticing! They seem to have worked out the issues which plagued the earlier units it seems. Plus the A73 is coming out next. Dual driver hybrid. Lots to look forward to :)
 
Nice! How are you finding them? Which is your favourite filter to use? I think of the KZ iems have interchangeble filters as well if I am not mistaken.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 5:20 PM Post #15,139 of 35,472
   
True dat! Dem fiddles are so enticing! They seem to have worked out the issues which plagued the earlier units it seems. Plus the A73 is coming out next. Dual driver hybrid. Lots to look forward to :)
 
Nice! How are you finding them? Which is your favourite filter to use? I think of the KZ iems have interchangeble filters as well if I am not mistaken.

@RedJohn456 I forgot to mention I have the A71's and like them. I'm listening to the treble filters on the RHA, but when I get home tonight I'm going to switch back to reference. I don't have any KZ iem's but I have the Rock Jaw Alphas and they have switchable filters similar to the RHA's. They are nice also. The more I listen to these RHA's I'm thinking I'm done for awhile, I'm going to be listening to these and the Clarity One's  for a while at least until the Havi B6's arrive lol!
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 5:58 PM Post #15,140 of 35,472
  @RedJohn456 I forgot to mention I have the A71's and like them. I'm listening to the treble filters on the RHA, but when I get home tonight I'm going to switch back to reference. I don't have any KZ iem's but I have the Rock Jaw Alphas and they have switchable filters similar to the RHA's. They are nice also. The more I listen to these RHA's I'm thinking I'm done for awhile, I'm going to be listening to these and the Clarity One's  for a while at least until the Havi B6's arrive lol!


You def have your bases covered in terms of different signatures! Makes it easier to wait that way. And if B6 isn't good you can get something else instead :) Win win (except for you wallet lol believe me I know that feel bro)
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 6:53 PM Post #15,141 of 35,472
I'm listening Vsonic GR04 Pro 50 ohm version now and this thing is really good. They aren't sibilant like the other GR series.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM Post #15,142 of 35,472
 
   
Yes, you can get used to a "good" life really fast, fine caviar of DUNUs and Fidues lol!!!
 
And to answer your original question before you edited it, DITA only gets dusted off whenever I need it for review comparison (the original intent of that review loaner).  I'm a bit obsessed right now with UM Pro 50 and testing it with different cables.  Or I should say, I'm more obsessed with cables than actual IEM lol!!!


I am already craving for some fidue a83 with a side dish of DN2000J :p  Joking. Maybe. I hate head fi lol
 
Does the Um Pro 50 use standard MMCX cables? Are you using custom cables from cable makers? I plan to get another cable for my Z5 but its actually the XBA H3 cable as the memory wire is better imo

 
All W10/20/30/40/50/60, UM Pro 10/20/30/50, Shure and UE900 and A83 and FX850 and probably Sony stuff uses the same mmcx connector, BUT Westone W/UM uses a low profile connector, a bit shorter.  So Westone OEM cable won't fit into other mmcx connectors, while other mmxc connectors will fit Westone.
 
Also keep in mind, Pure Silver cables (not a cheap silver-plated stuff) will run you up to $400.  Budget silver-plated stuff from Lunashops is about $40, but NOT the same level of sound improvement.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 9:06 PM Post #15,143 of 35,472
   
All W10/20/30/40/50/60, UM Pro 10/20/30/50, Shure and UE900 and A83 and FX850 and probably Sony stuff uses the same mmcx connector, BUT Westone W/UM uses a low profile connector, a bit shorter.  So Westone OEM cable won't fit into other mmcx connectors, while other mmxc connectors will fit Westone.
 
Also keep in mind, Pure Silver cables (not a cheap silver-plated stuff) will run you up to $400.  Budget silver-plated stuff from Lunashops is about $40, but NOT the same level of sound improvement.


Oh interesting, wasn't aware of the differences in westone connectors. Wow that is some serious money. I haven't played around with cables as of yet but I would imagine once I start going into other high end iems it is something that I might consider. Maybe not super expensive ones but something decent. Adds to resale value as well I would imagine :)
 
Are the differences in your face or is it more subtle? I don't really have trained ears so I am a noob in that aspect. 
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 9:21 PM Post #15,144 of 35,472
 
   
All W10/20/30/40/50/60, UM Pro 10/20/30/50, Shure and UE900 and A83 and FX850 and probably Sony stuff uses the same mmcx connector, BUT Westone W/UM uses a low profile connector, a bit shorter.  So Westone OEM cable won't fit into other mmcx connectors, while other mmxc connectors will fit Westone.
 
Also keep in mind, Pure Silver cables (not a cheap silver-plated stuff) will run you up to $400.  Budget silver-plated stuff from Lunashops is about $40, but NOT the same level of sound improvement.


Oh interesting, wasn't aware of the differences in westone connectors. Wow that is some serious money. I haven't played around with cables as of yet but I would imagine once I start going into other high end iems it is something that I might consider. Maybe not super expensive ones but something decent. Adds to resale value as well I would imagine :)
 
Are the differences in your face or is it more subtle? I don't really have trained ears so I am a noob in that aspect. 

 
You can use any standard mmcx connector with Westone, but original Westone cable can only be used with their IEMs.  Due to their bean shape (btw, probably among the best and the most comfortable fitments) and sideway location of the connector in the shell it's low profile on the cable side.
 
Difference is NOT in your face, but rather introducing more refinement, with better retrieval of details.  If you buy $1k IEM and $2.5k AK240 II you will take it to the next step with $400 Pure Silver balanced wired custom cable just to get a marginal improvement to squeeze every ounce of performance
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  There is an improvement, but it's definitely in a category of diminishing returns.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 9:31 PM Post #15,145 of 35,472
   
You can use any standard mmcx connector with Westone, but original Westone cable can only be used with their IEMs.  Due to their bean shape (btw, probably among the best and the most comfortable fitments) and sideway location of the connector in the shell it's low profile on the cable side.
 
Difference is NOT in your face, but rather introducing more refinement, with better retrieval of details.  If you buy $1k IEM and $2.5k AK240 II you will take it to the next step with $400 Pure Silver balanced wired custom cable just to get a marginal improvement to squeeze every ounce of performance
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  There is an improvement, but it's definitely in a category of diminishing returns.


Ahh, okay. I have no experience with trying different cables so thats pretty cool to know. It makes for interesting goals, improving each component in your portable gear, one by one. Seems like one can customize the sound to an extent. For some people it could mean the difference between hating or enjoying the gear. 
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 10:18 PM Post #15,146 of 35,472
  Xiaomi piston:
I bought several of them for friends and 2 for my brother. One was the first version which died after around 6 months and I didn't bother. The second was a v2 which also died after 6 months and I tried using the warranty. On both the online and phone support I was denied warranty because they don't fix it, only replace with a new one but require all accessories and the warranty slip from the user guide. The outer case including tips and all is back home in France so I said I didn't have the accessories and just got a "没有配件的话没办法" ie no accessories no way...
I'm debating the legality of this clause and asked my friend who studied law in China and indeed told me that it was against the  country's regulations but heck it's China...
 

 
After acting all pissed on the phone, Xiaomi called me back and offered to send me a new pair of pistons without returning the old one 
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. I'm gonna change the jack on the old one and hope it fixes it as the problem seems to be with the cable near the jack.
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 11:01 PM Post #15,147 of 35,472

 
Ahh, okay. I have no experience with trying different cables so thats pretty cool to know. It makes for interesting goals, improving each component in your portable gear, one by one. Seems like one can customize the sound to an extent. For some people it could mean the difference between hating or enjoying the gear. 

 
Cables making a difference in sound is something you have to believe in to hear. There is no measurable difference. Before spending your money, I suggest reading this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/486598/testing-audiophile-claims-and-myths 
 
Mar 3, 2015 at 11:10 PM Post #15,148 of 35,472
I've had the Fidue A83s for the past couple of weeks and they're one helluva a set of IEMs. Going back to others mostly entails being disappointed in lack of detail or bass quality or any other myriad of things the A83 does right. I can't express how much happier I've been since I switched to these from my B3 Pro 1 cuz while those were just fine with half of my music (the more instrumental and vocal oriented stuff), they suffered (not terribly but still) with the other half of my music consisting of EDM and hip-hop/rap. Fidue A83 to the rescue bringing a good quantity of very quality bass to the rest of the range the A83 does so well with.
 
Mar 4, 2015 at 2:40 AM Post #15,149 of 35,472
   
Cables making a difference in sound is something you have to believe in to hear. There is no measurable difference. Before spending your money, I suggest reading this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/486598/testing-audiophile-claims-and-myths 

 
Well actually, there is a measurable difference but it is beyond the limits of our hearing. 
 
Mar 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM Post #15,150 of 35,472
Hi All! Been rigorously searching through this thread and head-fi and the net on information about a few IEMs. I like the fun sound sig on the warm side. So I'll need someone's help to make my final decision. Somic MH415, VSONIC VSD3/S, Moxpad X6, Moxpad X3, Meelec M6 Pro. The VSONIC is my last option currently because its more expensive than the others. Also I'd prefer detachable cables as i would want to try my hand at making custom cables (for looks of course). So give me your honest opinion based on experience and also if there are other options available on the market around the same price please do recommend them. :)
 
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