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post #14521 of 15586

I downloaded sound explosion last night, wow! I'm starting to dig the dx50 now, I like the sound, the clear solid font and even the LP background! :beerchug:


Edited by Lowapproach - 8/3/14 at 9:40am
post #14522 of 15586

Try Sound Unlocked 1.3.3 @ FLAC mode and You will be probably even more surprised ;)

For me most of those sound explosion FW`s sounded artificial. I also tried other custom FW`s & rockbox but so far SU has the cleanest and accurate sound. 

 

Also, after some testing I found that with my Fidelio X1 I prefer different setting than with my external amped speakers.

X1 (head-out) -->  FLAC-only + IRR OFF + CPU default + mid gain

Speakers (line-out) --> FLAC-only + IRR ON + CPU 312kHz

 

With X1 settings speakers soundstage felt littlebit too distant and thus not so clear instruments separation/positioning.

Differences are small though but for my ears noticeable. And I have quite cheap modified speakers system also so it is probably because of that sound reproduction "quality".


Edited by CoiL - 8/3/14 at 12:34pm
post #14523 of 15586

SU 1.3.4(beta)

  • Sound signature changed

Email or PM me if you think that the previous version sounds better. That's OK if no differences for you or this version sounds better than the previous one.

download - https://github.com/dm1try/dx50_sound_unlocked/raw/master/releases/dx50_sound_unlocked_1.3.4_beta.7z

 

post #14524 of 15586
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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post
 

SU 1.3.4(beta)

  • Sound signature changed

Email or PM me if you think that the previous version sounds better. That's OK if no differences for you or this version sounds better than the previous one.

download - https://github.com/dm1try/dx50_sound_unlocked/raw/master/releases/dx50_sound_unlocked_1.3.4_beta.7z

 

BTW, no any "EQ" is involved, just some more stuff disabled(more details after release). The difference should be good noticeable if you are using FLAC/Irr ON/312kHz mode. 

post #14525 of 15586
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post
 

 

1. Amplification is NOT the/your problem. The typical smartphone has around 5mW at 0.1% THD, maybe up to 15mW for some tablets, while the DX50 probably has well over 200mW at possibly even 0.01% THD,* which is not only 40x the power output but also at likely a lower distortion rating. The DX50 also has a dedicated amplifier section with bigger power capacitors (still tiny, but bigger than what phones have), so current performance is a lot better as well. The DX50 also has a lot more power than the E6. Given these figures and you think the G2 sounds much better, amplification specifically output power cannot possibly be the problem here.

 

*A guesstimate based on the Fiio X1 having around half  the power of the X3, which in turn is comparable to the DX50
 

 

2. Frequency response. What makes the G2 sound better for you is very likely a matter of frequency response, and given your initial assumption is that the DX50 needs more power, it is very likely that the  Ibasso DX50 has a more neutral response and the G2's software tunes the EQ to sound/seem like it has a very dynamic output (I am assuming you did not enable any EQ's on PowerAmp), usually done by boosting midrange frequencies down to the upper bass. This brings out the main range of music out a lot more, and particularly with the drums, they have a stronger "punch" or "kick" to them. If overdone however this can make it harder for the 5mW integrated chip on the smartphone to drive headphones/IEMs, as on dynamic drivers for example boosting lower frequencies (even the upper bass) tends to require more excursion from the drivers, which in turn requires more power and current. Since that does not happen, it's likely that along with an easy enough to drive headphone that you're using, and as with a factory setting, likely not overdone. AFAIK, a lot of software or other "collaboration" products tend to use such a trick, except for Beats Audio's negative application of similar principles, which AFAIK (as mentioned before in some threads here, not sure how accurate) when installed and enabled, does nothing; then if disabled but is left installed, applies EQ to make the disabled sound (and by inference, the smartphone or laptop without it) sound lame.

 

 

3. Headphone or IEM. What were you using with all of those? Sometimes it's harder to appreciate the benefits to better amplification unless you use a better headphone/IEM (or even speaker), which in some cases, their design might have resulted in other compromises with regard to how easily they can be driven (higher impedance, lower efficiency, wider impedance swings from nominal, etc).

 

4. Gain. Check the DX50's gain - if it is on low and for example you tried an E6 at high gain, you will mistake the latter for sounding "better," as long as THD doesn't really kick in.

 

5. EQ Settings. Also, you can use the DX50's EQ to mimic the same "dynamic" sound. Play around boosting frequencies from 70hz to 500khz primarily, then a bit less for above 500hz to around 8khz. Not sure what specific frequencies can be tuned but tweak within that range.

I'm suing Grado sr 80e for headphones and Vsonic gr07 base edition for IEMs.
Thanks for your detailed analysis, I downloaded sound explosion and I think that it is somehow improved the sound a bit..I have been using the EQ with the Poweamp app and that boosted the overall sound level and gave me more control over my listening material (with so many ways to adjust the sound),

 

I understand that it's not natural sound but it is satisfying for some reason!  


Edited by Lowapproach - 8/3/14 at 9:02pm
post #14526 of 15586
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Originally Posted by Lowapproach View Post
 

I'm suing Grado sr 80e for headphones

 

 

please don't sue Grado, they didn't do anything wrong

post #14527 of 15586
Quote:
I'm suing Grado sr 80e for headphones and Vsonic gr07 base edition for IEMs.
Quote:

I have been using the EQ with the Poweamp app and that boosted the overall sound level and gave me more control over my listening material (with so many ways to adjust the sound),

I understand that it's not natural sound but it is satisfying for some reason!

LOL ...we understand ...or not, for some reason :D

post #14528 of 15586

how do you disable the driver enforcement on win7 x64?

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post #14530 of 15586

Hi, anyone know any custom FWs improve the bass quantity and give dark tonality to DX50? Currently I'm using Sound Explosion Dark Bass Edition v2 and tried the SU 1.3.3. I think SU 1.3.3 don't have more bass in low end frequency than SE Dark Bass v2. Thanks!


Edited by radqb - 8/4/14 at 7:47am
post #14531 of 15586

Hi Dimity,

 

Really looking forward to trying your SoundUnlocked 1.3.3 and thank you so much for spending your time doing this. The sound is very good with stock firmware, but needs these tweeks I think.

 

Does anyone have problems with the DX50 recognising the update.img file. Mine doesn't see it as a valid file  (date of file 29/7 size 177,068)?

post #14532 of 15586
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Originally Posted by Andymaxwell View Post
 

Hi Dimity,

 

Really looking forward to trying your SoundUnlocked 1.3.3 and thank you so much for spending your time doing this. The sound is very good with stock firmware, but needs these tweeks I think.

 

Does anyone have problems with the DX50 recognising the update.img file. Mine doesn't see it as a valid file  (date of file 29/7 size 177,068)?

Hi,

 

Could you check md5 for the file? (for 1.3.3 it should be 6a90ab2e39a6db05381712ad281e1e4e)

Anyway, what does that mean "doesn't see it as a valid file"?(you can't run "system update" or you have some errors while updating system)

post #14533 of 15586
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Originally Posted by radqb View Post

Hi, anyone know any custom FWs improve the bass quantity and give dark tonality to DX50? Currently I'm using Sound Explosion Dark Bass Edition v2 and tried the SU 1.3.3. I think SU 1.3.3 don't have more bass in low end frequency than SE Dark Bass v2. Thanks!

At 1st i was amazed by explosion v2. But i agree with some it is artificial. Sound unlocked is best for me which again i agree with so many!
post #14534 of 15586

yeah I prefer SU as well, especially as a line-out

post #14535 of 15586

And one again I recommend every SU user to try 2 different settings:

 

1) FLAC-only + irr OFF + CPU performance default --- more depth towards front/middle and vocals for example more out of headstage.

    More airy soundstage/imaging and more dynamics.

 

2) FLAC-only + irr ON + CPU 312kHz --- closer, more intimate and clearer imaging with little more separation in width.

 

For me those setting are actually on par because with some music and depending on speakers/headphones, one is little better fit than other.

With my Fidelio X1, I use 1st setting. With my external speakers I use 2nd setting.

 

Anyway, try those settings and share Your thoughts ;)


Edited by CoiL - 8/6/14 at 12:15am
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