Fischer Amps: FA-4 E XB - Rhapsody series (3/4/5 drivers upcoming)
Jul 12, 2014 at 3:20 PM Post #1,670 of 2,161
Hmm.. looks like the two triflanges I have at home. But I think the big ones came with a pair of meelec phones and the small ones I got when buying used in ears. Don't know if they're the same material. But I've noticed that the large triflanges tend to sound mid centric and a bit warm with a good soundstage and kind of smooth but extended treble. Only that they kind of rape your ears.
 
Jul 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM Post #1,671 of 2,161
Agree with the sound described above in the old fa 4e the clarity was a bit decreased with these tips too but the new fa are so transparent combined with the excellent soudstage the tri flange provide that sound is amazing treble is a bit more relaxed also but only a bit my pearl cable from effect studio made the treble much less present than with these tips...

in my case they fit great and isolate the best the sensorcom or the mh1c gave me more pain than the tri flanges rare but true maybe these are made with different material...Cecala has a pair sent by me maybe he can tell us how comfortable are
 
Jul 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM Post #1,673 of 2,161
**** I received the zero audio tenore added the mh1 c tips to them and what I'm hearing is not so far to the fa 4e xb saving the differences in presentation other difference is the tenore costs 42 euros. These are not yet at the level of the new fa 4e xb but are better than other phones I've heard which cost around 10 times more already prefer them over the ex1000, shure 535, um3x and the likes Edit like the tenore very much as I've said but the new fa 4e are easily two or three clases above not the other phones I've heard though
 
Jul 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM Post #1,675 of 2,161
Brief:
1. PFE232 vs FA-4E-XB
2. KEF M200 vs FA-4E-XB
3. DN1000 vs FA-4E-XB
 
1. These two IEM's are probably the last two I would let part from me.  I love both of them for what they do.  Both IEM's do a great job with bass, while the FA's do better with the sub bass, the PFE's do better with clarity.  They are both very clear, but when I really want concise instrument separation, timbre, and clarity, I go to the PFE232's.  If I really want all around and a submersive sound, I go with the FA's.  Winner goes to FA's.  Wider soundstage, more sub bass, warmer high end with still a little sparkle.
2. In contrast to above, the KEF M200's do a slightly better job in that sub bass feel.  The KEF's sound great, clear, less sparkle, and more of that fun bass feel that the market aims for.  They truly take some work to find the right eartips and positioning before they could be considered comfortable for long-term wearing, versus the FA's I tend to forget that they're their.  Consequently, the sound isolation is a little better with the FA's.  The FA's have a little more "LIVE" sound with timbre and more crisp highs than the KEF's.  Soundstage is about equal IMO.  FA's have a removable cable as well.  KEF is targeted at the fun listening purpose and the consumer, and it does that perfectly except for its fit.  But, for a good mixture of analytical listening AND fun/consumer sound, I'd go for the FA's.
3. DN1000's extend higher with the risk of some simblance.  DN1000's do an awesome job with the bass, but I tend to go for the FA's bass a little more.  There's greater extension with the Mid to Low with the FA's IMO, but the DN1000's do have a great impact when the drum kick happens thats addictive.  The DN1000's also do a good job with instrument seperation and being somewhat analytical, but they sounstage and submersive sound on the FA's blow them away.  The FA's are more competitive with my HD598 over-ears for wide soundstage than with the DN1000's (but how could it be when the HD598's are over ear and open back?!).
 
I will soon know the comparison between the new Westone 4 driver's and the FAD Heaven IV's, but right now, the FA-4E-XB's stand on the top of the tall, tangled, and expensive pile of headphones.
 
Jul 23, 2014 at 5:20 PM Post #1,677 of 2,161
Not really got the funds to buy them atm. Did speak to thomman though according to them the differences might not be noticeable ? I'm quite susceptible to subtle changes though. Do the new ones lift that veil from the vocals ?? I really miss the immersive sound :frowning2: .
 
Jul 23, 2014 at 5:29 PM Post #1,678 of 2,161
Yes absolutely the changes are very noticeable imo and the stage is wider also as I've said I noticed without knowing it and since the first listenings. sound is fantastic! have the tenore in the moment and like em a lot but the new fa are much much better :)

Differences for not audiophile people would be more subtle but for us are pretty noticeable that's for sure. And the mids are pure awesomeness hope you can hear them soon and see how alive-clear-detailed-crisp the mids are now
 
Jul 23, 2014 at 5:37 PM Post #1,680 of 2,161
Mmm I'll take holidays next week and leave my home for a month. I'm using them a lot at the moment... you can purchase them from thomann and send them back in 30 days so you can try them for free only you have to put the money in advance :frowning2:

Anyway when I come back from holidays and if you didn't try them yet we can talk about it
 

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