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post #1246 of 1734
My fa4 isn't that popular so I'll be keeping it for now probably. I sold off most of the rest but I can use these when I have the need for a universal. I was thinking about a se846 but not sure now
post #1247 of 1734
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I was thinking about a se846 but not sure now
Ask cn11 which owns both, Rollk2 told me both are at the same level technically but find the shures more musical and with better bass textures anyway the shures cost 600 euros more here so...and probably the fa 4e are better in the treble than the shures...
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 3/23/14 at 11:07am
post #1248 of 1734

That's quite the price difference there. I can't remember how much the FA-4 cost but I can get them for around $800 or so new so the difference isn't as much as it is there. I do want to know what Shure is capable of doing as the last iem I owned was the E4 and that was a long time ago.

post #1249 of 1734

Not technically,  but the soundstage of the FA4 is wider and deeper. Sincerely, if you love the FA4 and want an upgrade, buy an EM32 that is clearly better than the SE846.

post #1250 of 1734
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But that's weird Rollk2 as I've read some reports that the shure's are better than the Jh audio Roxannes or best customs!anyway it seems rawster is looking for an universal... That Em32 really caught my attention as the custom art 330v2 did, a spanish guy from the other forum ordered the 330v2 waiting for his review :popcorn: 

post #1251 of 1734

I had the pro330v2, absolutly fantastic for this price range, but not comparable to the EM32, that's why I've sold them a week ago. But if you just have 575€, go for them though the upgrade with the FA4 is not as consequent.

 

If the SE846 are better than the Roxanne... hum the Roxanne should be a lot overpriced !!! But I clearly doubt that the SE846 are better, his soundstage is relatively in the head and not airy. The Roxanne have a big soundstage with a lot of air from what a friend who was in Florida told me. The SE846 are natural with an excellent note weight but it's not the only criteria to say it's a good IEM.

post #1252 of 1734
You get so many varying opinions esp at these price ranges. There's always something that competes at 3x it's price range or competes with totl. It's hard to form a general consensus on anything so I take what people say with a grain of salt unless I am familiar with their opinions.
post #1253 of 1734
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The em32 seem the way to go in europe or the se5 in btw Rollk2 any thoughts about senheisser ie800?
post #1254 of 1734
Idk the ie800 frown.gif never heard but it seems to be a high level, perhaps the level of the se846 or better, no idea frown.gif
post #1255 of 1734

As far as the differences between the FA-4E & 846, the Shure is more dynamic in terms of bass extension. I get a soundstage which is a little bit wider, and treble extension with about the same ultimate reach, but this is only the case with the most ideal tips. For me that is Sony Hybrids. I have to wrap a little bit of clear tape around the nozzles so they stay on, but once in place they offer notably more open sound than any other tip I have on hand. Vocals on the FA-4E are a touch more distant (but nothing of note when not listening directly after the Shure). On the 846, they're a bit more front and center. 

 

Overall because of the bass I enjoy the 846 better. But the FA-4E is very close in the rest of the picture. 

post #1256 of 1734
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post

As far as the differences between the FA-4E & 846, the Shure is more dynamic in terms of bass extension. I get a soundstage which is a little bit wider, and treble extension with about the same ultimate reach, but this is only the case with the most ideal tips. For me that is Sony Hybrids. I have to wrap a little bit of clear tape around the nozzles so they stay on, but once in place they offer notably more open sound than any other tip I have on hand. Vocals on the FA-4E are a touch more distant (but nothing of note when not listening directly after the Shure). On the 846, they're a bit more front and center. 

Overall because of the bass I enjoy the 846 better. But the FA-4E is very close in the rest of the picture. 

Nice! You could try using the tubes of comply tips or similar foamies. I've had great use of the tubes. For Shure iems it would be T(s)100 right? Or decore a pair of used up olives and trim down the core to line up with the length of the nozzle. It's just a more elegant solution than using tape in my opinion.
post #1257 of 1734
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But with most ideal tips with the fa 4e you'll get also better results tongue.gif
post #1258 of 1734

Isn't FA-4E XB supposed to be one of the most comfortable universal IEMs period?

 

I have tried different tips and readjusted many times but always the same issues: 

I have problems with FA-4E pushing into the Crus of Helix area as indicated by the JH audio fit correction diagram and the area will start to feel sore after half an hour or so

As it is a tight fit readjusting the FA-4E even by a little bit will affect the Cymba area instead, same issue as above for that area

 

And from average_joe's fit guide:
"B) Cymba (AKA Upper Concha bowl):
Cymba area sore: In my experience, this doesn’t go away over time and the area needs to be shaved down, which generally requires the CIEM to be sent back.  It is possible to fix minor issues by using sandpaper."

http://theheadphonelist.com/custom-in-ear-monitors-fit-guide/

 

And also, lying sideways on the bed I can feel the pressure of FA-4E pressing against my ears even though I have them sitting flush against my ears

 

Any pointers here please?

post #1259 of 1734
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That's weird I find them incredible comfortable I feel these dissapear into my ears, let's see more opinions
post #1260 of 1734
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How is been your sq test? Aside this issue I recommend you to try mh1c tips in Large or sensorcom bi flanges
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