[Dobrescu George]

  After my incident with my favorites I decided to just take the extra few steps and add songs to playlist1. I thought this would solve my issue of losing my list of music I've spent a lot of time curating. I finally wanted to listen to said playlist and over half the songs can't be found. What gives? I didn't remove any of the songs all I do is just add music to this thing. 
 
Oh and those playlist are stuck in the x5. I can't seem to export them or edit them when the x5 is plugged in. Maybe I'm missing something. 
 
To be frank I really don't think the SQ is worth a downgrade in usability. I feel like I've divorced my wife of 10 years for a hot young red head, only to realize that what I had was special. I miss you iPod. 
 
Edit: Ran across this thread http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?PHPSESSID=ng9fffke3ir6ieh13tmal4qdt1&topic=91883.0
 
Basically Those playlist are kept and maintained in some internal database. I can't even add or subtract from playlist I've created manually. And If I add to many songs to the favorite my x5 freezes up. SMH.
 
I Guess my only option is to just keep adding to my favorites and then once a week go in and manually add those songs to a playlist I maintain myself. 

it really is not possible for you to order your music while on the go, if this is what you want. i think that i can solve your problem, by telling you to order and organize what you like and don't on a computer. this is the only way that is problem free.
 
the SQ is exactly what i wanted to pay for. with custom UIs the player is exactly what it should be.
 
i really do not understand why you are comparing it to apple products, there are lots and lots of differences, other target market, other price point, other purpose of product.
 
sadly, not even in the custom firmware thread there is no way for you to unpack the already installed firmware, to extract favorites, at least to my knowledge.

 

[trunolimit]

it really is not possible for you to order your music while on the go, if this is what you want. i think that i can solve your problem, by telling you to order and organize what you like and don't on a computer. this is the only way that is problem free.

the SQ is exactly what i wanted to pay for. with custom UIs the player is exactly what it should be.

i really do not understand why you are comparing it to apple products, there are lots and lots of differences, other target market, other price point, other purpose of product.

sadly, not even in the custom firmware thread there is no way for you to unpack the already installed firmware, to extract favorites, at least to my knowledge.

Well then I'm out of luck until possibly a future firmware. How I consume music is probably abnormal so I'll probably never find the right player. I have over 300,000 songs in my collection. This is a collection spanning over a decade. My music has survived viruses, Hard drive crashes, and lost computers.

I add about 3 to 4 albums a week. The only time I really listen to my music is when I'm driving or riding my bicycle. I usually throw a bunch of stuff on there and listen at random. Then I'll run into a track I love that I've never heard before. I can't stop what I'm doing just to find out what song that is. Then I also need a way to Mark songs for deletion.

This is why the rating system was great. Everyone agrees that the iPod is the gold standard in usability. I'm just saying instead of copying the look of the iPod I wish fiio took more from the Apple ui.

 

[djselbeck]

  To be frank I really don't think the SQ is worth a downgrade in usability. I feel like I've divorced my wife of 10 years for a hot young red head, only to realize that what I had was special. I miss you iPod.

 
Haha quite nicely put. I agree with that.

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  it really is not possible for you to order your music while on the go, if this is what you want. i think that i can solve your problem, by telling you to order and organize what you like and don't on a computer. this is the only way that is problem free.
 
the SQ is exactly what i wanted to pay for. with custom UIs the player is exactly what it should be.
 
i really do not understand why you are comparing it to apple products, there are lots and lots of differences, other target market, other price point, other purpose of product.

 
Maybe he's not aware he already has part of the UI from an apple
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/BarIcons.html
 

 
 
And your welcome in the theme thread for giving you a vid and advice to try and help while you are over here too busy arguing nonsense with a guy about opinions. Stay classy.

 
 
 
They shoulda copied the "POP" eq preset instead of the "V" and other eq head scratchers.
My lord what a set of off the wall pre-sets. How many folks using those thinking that is the way. Lets scoop the mids as most cans have big humps in the mids...oh....wait??? That doesn't sound right<<<<<see what I did there.
 
 
 

 

[Kagelou]

Just received my X5 and E12A today, I've only listened to a couple of tracks (been busy with trying out modded firmwares) but WOW, it's almost as if my music has been "cloudy" all this time. The X5 alone has quite nice SQ but paired with the E12A, seems like I'm going to listen to my entire library to pick up what I've missed. I also really like the look and feel, it has a "good" weight to it in my opinion.
 
I did notice that the wheel may take some getting used to since it doesn't seem to be precise all the time (which I was expecting from reading reviews). Also, there seems to be lag of the screen displaying information when the track changes, but I'm sure future FW updates will fix that issue. Other than that, I'm very happy with my purchase. Thank you to everyone in this thread, I dug up a lot of information here before making the purchase.
 
Special thanks to x RELIC x and Hawaiibadboy for answering a bunch of my questions and introducing me to a great X5 (and other Fiio products) international seller!

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  Just received my X5 and E12A today, I've only listened to a couple of tracks (been busy with trying out modded firmwares) but WOW, it's almost as if my music has been "cloudy" all this time. The X5 alone has quite nice SQ but paired with the E12A, seems like I'm going to listen to my entire library to pick up what I've missed. I also really like the look and feel, it has a "good" weight to it in my opinion.
 
I did notice that the wheel may take some getting used to since it doesn't seem to be precise all the time (which I was expecting from reading reviews). Also, there seems to be lag of the screen displaying information when the track changes, but I'm sure future FW updates will fix that issue. Other than that, I'm very happy with my purchase. Thank you to everyone in this thread, I dug up a lot of information here before making the purchase.
 
Special thanks to x RELIC x and Hawaiibadboy for answering a bunch of my questions and introducing me to a great X5 (and other Fiio products) international seller!

Leave that seller a good review if your happy. good karma is always nice to pass along

He's solid.

 

[FlatulentDonkey]

Just to let you know that I also experienced that lag in the track changing but since one of the firmware updates we have already had, that issue is no more.

 

[trunolimit]

Maybe he's not aware he already has part of the UI from an apple
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/BarIcons.html





And your welcome in the theme thread for giving you a vid and advice to try and help while you are over here too busy arguing nonsense with a guy about opinions. Stay classy.:rolleyes:  


They shoulda copied the "POP" eq preset instead of the "V" and other eq head scratchers.
My lord what a set of off the wall pre-sets. How many folks using those thinking that is the way. Lets scoop the mids as most cans have big humps in the mids...oh....wait??? That doesn't sound right<<<<

Maybe UI is not the right word for my problem. It is lack of features. Besides the wheel being to loose so i always over shoot what i actualy want, the interface is pretty nice. I just want to be able to add songs to a playlist with 1 touch (i will settle for 2) and be able to improt and export that playlist. Thats it.

And i really dont want to nor have the time to get into coding a custom UI. Unless i could build the functionality i am looking for. If i could change how the x5 treats favorites and playlist then id be willing to dedicate an hour here and there to solve my problem. But from what i've gleemed is those custom ui are mostly cosmetic. If im wrong then consider my hat eaten and i will get to work on a real favorites function.

 

[nmatheis]

Correct. Current limitations on modding won't allow you to change fundamental behavior / features like something like Rockbox would.

 

[Dobrescu George]

I really think that i am going to be blamed for this, but at a certain point joe or james said to me in a repply that sennheiser ie8 has a very high quality driver. after about one month of really trying to fiind out why he said that, i can certainly say that, that affirmation was correct.
 
i wanted to ask if it is possible for him to post a short list of other iems and headphones that have high quality drivers inside, and have great potential. i am amazed by how much i can get out of ie8, if i really try.

 

[Kagelou]

  Just to let you know that I also experienced that lag in the track changing but since one of the firmware updates we have already had, that issue is no more.

Hm, I do have a modded FW installed, but its modded over 2.4 so I dunno why I'm still experiencing the lag...
The lag was present with stock 2.4 FW as well.

 

[Cagin]

Does anyone own a Pelican 1010 case by chance? Wondering if an X5 could fit in it within the rubber sole padding.
Pelican website says the case's inner dimensions are  4.37" x 2.87" x 1.68" (11.1 x 7.3 x 4.3 cm);
Fiio.net website says the X5's dimensions (without the silicon protection) are 11.4 x 6.76 x 1.56 cm.
 
I dunno if the inner specs are with rubber sole or not; like could I gain those lacking height 3 millimeters by pushing against the rubber.
 
Feeling protective of the Duoza I just got and that Pelican 1010 seems like the perfect deal. Was gonna order some SpinFit tips from Jaben when I stumbled upon that case.

 

[lookingforIEMs]

Does anyone own a Pelican 1010 case by chance? Wondering if an X5 could fit in it within the rubber sole padding.
Pelican website says the case's inner dimensions are  [COLOR=444444]4.37" x 2.87" x 1.68" (11.1 x 7.3 x 4.3 cm);[/COLOR]
[COLOR=444444]Fiio.net website says the X5's dimensions (without the silicon protection) are 11.4 x 6.76 x 1.56 cm.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=444444]I dunno if the inner specs are with rubber sole or not; like could I gain those lacking height 3 millimeters by pushing against the rubber.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=444444]Feeling protective of the Duoza I just got and that Pelican 1010 seems like the perfect deal. Was gonna order some SpinFit tips from Jaben when I stumbled upon that case.[/COLOR]

Own a 1020 and can confirm that my X5 fits with just a little more space left. Considering 1010 is like 3/4 or maybe even 1/2 the size, don't take the leap of you don't have the chance to try it out yourself.

 

[Cagin]

Own a 1020 and can confirm that my X5 fits with just a little more space left. Considering 1010 is like 3/4 or maybe even 1/2 the size, don't take the leap of you don't have the chance to try it out yourself.

Thanks for the prompt response, cheers! 

 Will refrain from ordering the 1010 from Jaben since can't try it out beforehand.
Meanwhile included my search with the OtterBox Pursuit 20 and 40 models. Specs off this site http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2013/12/09/otterbox-pursuit-drybox-review/ :

  Capacity of the Pursuit 20

1. Exterior Dimensions: 1.65” H x 3.85” W x 5.60” D
2. Holds a rectangular volume of: 0.66”H x 2.71”W x 4.88”D
3. Approximate total internal volume: 15 cu. in.

Capacity of the Pursuit 40

1. Exterior Dimensions: 2.05” H x 4.75” W x 6.95” D
2. Holds a rectangular volume of: 1.00”H x 2.875”W x 5.50”D
3. Approximate total internal volume: 30 cu. in.

Reviewer's H x W x D feels like to D x W x H to me but if I respect it, in cm it becomes:
OtterBox Pursuit 20 would hold a rectangular volume of 1.67 x 6.88 x 12.39 cm
Otterbox Pursuit 40 would hold a rectangular volume of  2.54 x 7.30 x 13.97 cm
Fiio X5  from review's respective H x W x D order           1.56 x 6.76 x 11.4  cm
 
edit: Otterbox has removed all pages about their Pursuit dry boxes from their site

 

[Cagin]

About the X5 wheel in relation to scrolling speed in library, if it's impossible to implement a progressively accelerating scrolling when continuously spinning the wheel (is it because it's a mechanical one?); would it then be possible that while in the library/folder browse window, pressing the side volume buttons up and down scrolls the list up and down, and holding the buttons make scrolling accelerate progressively?
 
I'd prefer a fluid accelerating scrolling to an alphabetical letter skipping method.