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= Hifiman HE500 & HE400 Jergpad Mod v2.5 =
Feb 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM Post #286 of 1,710
J$'s in the house!
Now I'm gonna spend some time getting used to both the J$'s and the Jerg's. The J$ isn't that much more comfortable to me, compared to the pleathers with vent mod, but the headphone seems more secure, and now the headband doesn't rest as much on my head, which is nice.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM Post #287 of 1,710
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davidsh said:
J$'s in the house!
Now I'm gonna spend some time getting used to both the J$'s and the Jerg's. The J$ isn't that much more comfortable to me, compared to the pleathers with vent mod, but the headphone seems more secure, and now the headband doesn't rest as much on my head, which is nice.
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AAaaahhh I wan't to hear a comparison between the two pads :D
 
WAIT, gotta get some popcorn!
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 12:45 PM Post #288 of 1,710
Here ya go: 
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I do like the Jerg's more, but the J$ seems to be better than both the velours and the pleathers to my ears. Sorrily im not sure a full comparison will come before the weekend or next week, but I might start small and make the post, changing it as my opinions change too.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 1:33 PM Post #290 of 1,710
Guy's what is this VENT MOD?
 
Thanks
 
Jack
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM Post #291 of 1,710
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jackiedh said:
Guy's what is this VENT MOD?
 
Thanks
 
Jack
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Pretty much just putting some tape under the pads to angle the drivers a bit and letting air/vibration pass through under the pads
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 AM Post #292 of 1,710
I did this mod a while back but as a result of my shoddy method of sticking the mounting ring to the pad I went back to the velours. It just felt half baked, not the sound but the build quality. Well I finally got hold of some good duct tape and managed to stick the two pieces much better, it feels more secure now.
 
I'll give these pads a second chance now and report back with impressions.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM Post #293 of 1,710
Anyone have any ideas what to do if your ears touch the driver? Taking out the foam insert really decreases the thickness of the pad.
 
Im really liking the sound change I get with these pads but the fact that my ear touches the driver, plus my hate for pleather material is really disappointing. It can get sweaty and greasy over time. Velours are just so much more comfortable. I just wish there was a way to get this sound with velour.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM Post #294 of 1,710
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beaver316 said:
Anyone have any ideas what to do if your ears touch the driver? Taking out the foam insert really decreases the thickness of the pad.
 
Im really liking the sound change I get with these pads but the fact that my ear touches the driver, plus my hate for pleather material is really disappointing. It can get sweaty and greasy over time. Velours are just so much more comfortable. I just wish there was a way to get this sound with velour.
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Doing the vent mod is just enough for me. My ears don't touch, they did touch a bit before. Also, the sound will probably be better too 
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Feb 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM Post #295 of 1,710
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Doing the vent mod is just enough for me. My ears don't touch, they did touch a bit before. Also, the sound will probably be better too 
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I'll try it tomorrow, but im not too optimistic. It doesn't seem like it would create enough of a gap and by the look of the pictures it may strain the 4 hooks on the mounting ring.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM Post #296 of 1,710
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I'll try it tomorrow, but im not too optimistic. It doesn't seem like it would create enough of a gap and by the look of the pictures it may strain the 4 hooks on the mounting ring.
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It was just enough for me, though. Also, it does not seem to stress the mounting tabs if you are a bit careful
 
Feb 6, 2013 at 5:07 AM Post #298 of 1,710
I've thought up something else. By taping the foam ring to the outside of the pad, it both helps distance my ears from the driver so Im not touching it, and also feels much better than the pleather material on your skin (no sweating and oil). It's quite comfortable too. Jerg, do you think this may have a negative impact on sound in theory?
 
 

 
Feb 6, 2013 at 5:49 AM Post #299 of 1,710
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beaver316 said:
I've thought up something else. By taping the foam ring to the outside of the pad, it both helps distance my ears from the driver so Im not touching it, and also feels much better than the pleather material on your skin (no sweating and oil). It's quite comfortable too. Jerg, do you think this may have a negative impact on sound in theory?
 
 
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The only thing is that the foam is not meant to be used for prolonged direct contact with skin, so I can't imagine this going so well if you wear it for more than 4-5 hours, and also it might not last nearly as long as the pleathers would for the long term.
 
Briefly trying it, it doesn't sound bad compared to just the pads actually. Bass extension is still there, overall transparency seems just a tad lessened although because of the increased distance, there is a tad more air. Very small differences though.
 
Honestly, the ideal earpads for Hifiman cans would be something like the jergpads (pleathers with lots of damping holes), but a bit larger in diametre, and just a little thicker (maybe another 1/2 cm). This way the ears won't be too far from the drivers (so that midrange won't be so withdrawn and treble wouldn't be so drawn out), but it isn't close enough that people with more fanned ears would have comfort issues.
 
Feb 6, 2013 at 6:43 AM Post #300 of 1,710
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The only thing is that the foam is not meant to be used for prolonged direct contact with skin, so I can't imagine this going so well if you wear it for more than 4-5 hours, and also it might not last nearly as long as the pleathers would for the long term.
 
Briefly trying it, it doesn't sound bad compared to just the pads actually. Bass extension is still there, overall transparency seems just a tad lessened although because of the increased distance, there is a tad more air. Very small differences though.
 
Honestly, the ideal earpads for Hifiman cans would be something like the jergpads (pleathers with lots of damping holes), but a bit larger in diametre, and just a little thicker (maybe another 1/2 cm). This way the ears won't be too far from the drivers (so that midrange won't be so withdrawn and treble wouldn't be so drawn out), but it isn't close enough that people with more fanned ears would have comfort issues.
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Comfort-wise judging from the time i've spent with these so far, I think I would be able to last a lot longer than bare pleathers. I think I'll be sticking with these over the velours for the time being, they are a definite improvement over those sound wise.
 
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