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post #6961 of 9059

FX-8350 is on sale for $130 on Amazon right now.  Would that be worth getting instead of a i5?

post #6962 of 9059
For gaming, no. Most of today's games would only use 4 cores and the i5 has much faster cores than FX. Even on benchmark apps where the FX can use all of its cores, it can still barely match Haswell i5.

IMO just save up for an i5.
post #6963 of 9059
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Man. I love the Define and all but everyone and their great grandmother have one.
I guess its just because its good stuffs. wink.gif
post #6964 of 9059

Don't bother buying any AMD CPU for high end until Zen which won't be until 2016. They've been taking their...probably 5 year break now. Progress stopped after Phenom II.

 

Zen is going back to the traditional CPU structure instead of the module (physical threads) design.

 

I find it odd Zen is going to start at the 10-14nm fab since they're still on 28nm right now. Quite the large jump. Still, looking forward to Zen. Maybe AMD will become relevant in the high-end market again.


Edited by HybridCore - 11/20/14 at 6:10pm
post #6965 of 9059

thanks for the info, i5 it'll be.

post #6966 of 9059
Thread Starter 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1701-far-cry-4-gpu-benchmark-amd-is-broken-again

 

 

It took me all of 2 hours playing around with my settings and cards to realize that the game is pretty much broken for AMD cards.

 

The link pretty much confirmed what was happening

 

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Game-Breaking Stuttering, Frame Drops, & Choppiness on AMD

Far Cry 4 has fairly intensive graphics, but the game performs fluidly on all nVidia hardware. The fluidity with which gameplay unfolded meant that even nVidia devices pushing 30-40FPS were still more than “playable” in both input and visual output. AMD devices suffered horribly, though. Even with a 290X on medium settings, we experienced frame stuttering and choppiness (similar to what we saw in Watch_Dogs) that was jarring enough to be considered “unplayable.” Panning the camera left-to-right showcases the stuttering and frame drops, ultimately netting a somewhat nauseating experience on AMD GPUs.

We experienced this stuttering across all tested AMD devices, including the HD 7000-series card and rebrands (250X).

Owners of AMD devices should not purchase Far Cry 4 until further patches and driver updates are issued by both the developer and AMD. We tested with 14.11.2 beta drivers and Ubisoft's day-1 1GB patch, but know that updates are forthcoming.

Optimization is Great... for Half the Market

NVIDIA's cards run shockingly fluidly given the somewhat average framerates. Far Cry 4 is completely playable on a 750 Ti, though you'd want to drop settings a bit (probably close to “low”) for those scenes featuring explosives and high-action. The special “NVIDIA” preset game settings create an environment that features low-hanging fog, cloud-piercing god rays, and AA / AO that make for a beautifully-rendered game.

Unfortunately, none of this matters if you're on an AMD video card. The game is shamefully unplayable on AMD devices, to the point that I question whether Ubisoft even performed internal testing on AMD GPUs.


Read more at http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1701-far-cry-4-gpu-benchmark-amd-is-broken-again#YtGRyTjzVAz4TsIC.99
post #6967 of 9059
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http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1701-far-cry-4-gpu-benchmark-amd-is-broken-again


It took me all of 2 hours playing around with my settings and cards to realize that the game is pretty much broken for AMD cards.

The link pretty much confirmed what was happening
Gonna chime in here and say I still prefer Nvidia cards tongue.gif and my RMA shipped 5 minutes ago. ^.^
post #6968 of 9059
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

Don't bother buying any AMD CPU for high end until Zen which won't be until 2016. They've been taking their...probably 5 year break now. Progress stopped after Phenom II.

 

Zen is going back to the traditional CPU structure instead of the module (physical threads) design.

 

I find it odd Zen is going to start at the 10-14nm fab since they're still on 28nm right now. Quite the large jump. Still, looking forward to Zen. Maybe AMD will become relevant in the high-end market again.

 

Any further info about the Zen? I haven't do any research about it, though it does sound quite intriguing. I imagine with the extent of the performance lead Intel have over AMD, they would need to take a few years break and take their time on developing a competitive CPU on which they are going to base their future CPUs on.

 

Phenom II was miles behind the performance of Intel CPUs of that time as well, which was the Q9650 / i7-920 if I remember it correctly. I've never tried using AMD CPU, but I am very interested if they manage to develop a competitive product.

post #6969 of 9059
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Cables could use some work. *runs*

I know, that rig was a spontaneous setup after my old one blew up and I haven't really been bothered to fix it. I will once I get a new case.

post #6970 of 9059
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For gaming, no. Most of today's games would only use 4 cores and the i5 has much faster cores than FX. Even on benchmark apps where the FX can use all of its cores, it can still barely match Haswell i5.

IMO just save up for an i5.

 

I don't know. Whatever you take out of the video is yours. I will say that I enjoy the FX-8320 that I'm running at the moment, I regret not getting a 8350, but whatever.

post #6971 of 9059

Well the video says Cinebench favours Intel, which I don't know (and tbh I'm quite skeptical about). But there are other means of benchmark other than Cinebench, such as 3DMark benchmarks.

 

 

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_vishera_fx8350_piledriver_review/8 

 

3DMark Vantage (Performance / Extreme)

 

FX8350 - 25.254 / 16.615

i5-3570k - 28.629 / 17.676

 

FX8350 @ 4.8GHz - 28.099 / 17.577

i5-3570k @ 4.8GHz - 32.078 / 18.056

 

To put this into context, I had an i7-920 many years ago running at 4.2GHz and it scored 28k on the 3DMark Vantage performance cpu test. In essence, the FX-8350, AMD's 2012 CPU, despite with higher clocks can only compete with Intel's 2008 CPU.

 

There's also a 3DMark 11 there, and there's gaming benchmarks here http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5 

 

Not trying to attack anybody here, just trying to help Za Warudo, which was asking whether to get the FX8350 or an i5.

 

 

PS: The Vishera running at 4.8GHz would draw over 225w for the CPU alone.

post #6972 of 9059

You think it'd be worth upgrading from a 6300 to the 8350 at that price point if I already have a compatible mobo?  I have a box of complete water cooling stuff that's been sitting in the corner for probably half a year.  I feel installing it on a processor that bottlenecks my gpu in every game I've ever played would be pointless.

post #6973 of 9059

 

A kinda old screencap, but shows what I've been able to pull off with my own 8320. No overclock, running a Hyper 212 Evo (only the stock fan installed).

 

Having the ability to run two encodes at rather acceptable FPS and still be able to browse around, listen to music, and do what I need to is pretty cool. If I ever figure out what threads my games are running on, I imagine I can play said video game on those and isolate it, then run something like OBS or something else CPU intensive on the rest, without impacting encoding quality or FPS in game. Something you can't really on a 4 core CPU, that has no free cores/threads.

post #6974 of 9059

Got a new external hard drive! Finally, some USB 3.0 goodness. They will go well with a Fractal case.

 

 

post #6975 of 9059
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Got a new external hard drive! Finally, some USB 3.0 goodness. They will go well with a Fractal case.

 

 

Whoa. That case. That looked almost exactly like what I was looking for -- practically a box, with imposing, sharp edges. But for some reason, I got a thermaltake urban something with rounded edges and windows and lights and stuff. And a fridge door. Which IMO sucks.

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