The diary entries of a little girl in her 30s! ~ Part 2
Jun 22, 2013 at 6:49 PM Post #15,016 of 21,761
To give a specific example for Hutnicks' suggestion, Giorgio by Moroder is probably the song to use from that album as it even give an OXN explanation of sorts.

 
That was definitely an album that I did not expect to like, and started out not liking, and it turned me right around.
 
And since I'm in a contrary mood, it doesn't really drop KC and the Sunshine Band nearly as much as it veers between Italo-disco at one extreme and funk-fusion like Chick Corea's early Return to Forever albums.
 

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...even some badass hurdy gurdy tracks.

 
Oh, I could make you all hate me with an invitation like that.

 
Jun 22, 2013 at 6:56 PM Post #15,017 of 21,761
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Oh, I could make you all hate me with an invitation like that.
 

 
Ha, I actually have that album.
 
I was thinking of posting some hurdy gurdy jams from Mr. O'rourke's friend Keiji Haino. His Abandon All Words At A Stroke So Prayer Can Come Spilling Out album for instance (he sure loves his long, convoluted titles).
 
However Kawabata Makoto remains my favorite modern player of that instrument.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 7:08 PM Post #15,018 of 21,761
Ha, I actually have that album.

I was thinking of posting some hurdy gurdy jams from Mr. O'rourke's friend Keiji Haino. His Abandon All Words At A Stroke So Prayer Can Come Spilling Out album for instance (he sure loves his long, convoluted titles).

However Kawabata Makoto remains my favorite modern player of that instrument.


Interesting naming for an album. So it's not just an isolated thing with regards to how almost all light novels from in Japan has ridiculously long names. Like I Can't Believe My Little Sister is an Otaku or Who Cares if I'm the Villain? ***** Yeah, I Got B*tches! or The class rep everyone's afraid of may be turning into my personal maid or Convenience stores managed by high school girls are boring.

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Oh, I could make you all hate me with an invitation like that.


I gave up at 12:45

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Interesting censoring now... the four letter f word, with an asterisk instead of the letter u, is still replaced by 5 asterisks.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM Post #15,020 of 21,761
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I gave up at 12:45

 
You missed the good part, then.

Interesting censoring now... the four letter f word, with an asterisk instead of the letter u, is still replaced by 5 asterisks.
 


It's probably a regular expression match, which is pretty easy to craft if you're willing to put up with some false positives from time to time...
 
Going to be hard to illustrate this with the word-blocking system in place, so apologies if this ends up being more confusing than it's worth...
 
The F word is four letters long, every letter unique... which helps make it recognizable when the word is manipulated in order to evade simple detection. So the system can have something like the following*:
Code:
 #[Ff]+[Uu]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...and it will not only block any upper-lowercase combination of the word, but also multiplications of any single letter because that plus symbol means "Match as many as you can". Such as, say, if the second two letters were tacked onto the Rage Guy macro

However, it wouldn't detect character replacement (eg, substituting * for U) or deliberate misspellings.
 
Since the vowel is usually what gets deleted when self-censoring, you can confront that head-on:
Code:
 #[Ff]+[Uu.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...without worrying too much about complications.
 
In fact, if you're diligent and serious about blocking Bad Words, you have to do this: English-language will casually accommodate lookalike characters when they do the job appropriately -- after all, everybody already knows what you mean when you've replaced that U with an asterisk. So you should look out for Greek lowercase upsilon and mu as well:
 
Code:
 #[Ff]+[Uuυμ.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...and Armenian seh:
Code:
 #[Ff]+[Uuυμս.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...and you can see where this is going.
 
*(There are more efficient ways of writing this regular expression, but they'll also trigger this site's bad-words detector.)
 

Word choices do matter and regulating those choices can be a form of control. But in venues like this, it doesn't matter. The F word is used for rhetorical seasoning; it's not an essential part of any discussion of audio equipment. When I'm in a forum where people are sensitive or offended by choices of words; it's easy to avoid using them and successfully communicate my message. If anything, what often happens here when somebody states their opinion heatedly, is that he gets attacked for his opinions by others who are reacting primarily to the emotional weight in the opinion rather than the opinion itself. Allowing the use of obscenities here will do nothing but exacerbate that. So I don't find the obscenity-blocking worth getting upset about. And I'm a person who swears like a sailor in real life.
 
If somebody has the hubris to name their audio company with a four-letter word, and discussion of that company is prohibited thereby, then I'll have different feelings about it. As it is, everybody says "Schiit" here, everybody exchanges their nods and winks over it, and no harm is done.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM Post #15,021 of 21,761
You missed the good part, then.
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It's probably a regular expression match, which is pretty easy to craft if you're willing to put up with some false positives from time to time...

Going to be hard to illustrate this with the word-blocking system in place, so apologies if this ends up being more confusing than it's worth...

The F word is four letters long, every letter unique... which helps make it recognizable when the word is manipulated in order to evade simple detection. So the system can have something like the following*:
Code:
#[Ff]+[Uu]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...and it will not only block any upper-lowercase combination of the word, but also multiplications of any single letter because that plus symbol means "Match as many as you can". Such as, say, if the second two letters were tacked onto the Rage Guy macro


However, it wouldn't detect character replacement (eg, substituting * for U) or deliberate misspellings.

Since the vowel is usually what gets deleted when self-censoring, you can confront that head-on:
Code:
#[Ff]+[Uu.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#
...without worrying too much about complications.

In fact, if you're diligent and serious about blocking Bad Words, you have to do this: English-language will casually accommodate lookalike characters when they do the job appropriately -- after all, everybody already knows what you mean when you've replaced that U with an asterisk. So you should look out for Greek lowercase upsilon and mu as well:

Code:
#[Ff]+[Uuυμ.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#

...and Armenian seh:

Code:
#[Ff]+[Uuυμս.+*@#^%&]+[Cc]+[Kk]+#

...and you can see where this is going.
 
*(There are more efficient ways of writing this regular expression, but they'll also trigger this site's bad-words detector.)
 

Word choices do matter and regulating those choices can be a form of control. But in venues like this, it doesn't matter. The F word is used for rhetorical seasoning; it's not an essential part of any discussion of audio equipment. When I'm in a forum where people are sensitive or offended by choices of words; it's easy to avoid using them and successfully communicate my message. If anything, what often happens here when somebody states their opinion heatedly, is that he gets attacked for his opinions by others who are reacting primarily to the emotional weight in the opinion rather than the opinion itself. Allowing the use of obscenities here will do nothing but exacerbate that. So I don't find the obscenity-blocking worth getting upset about. And I'm a person who swears like a sailor in real life.
If somebody has the hubris to name their audio company with a four-letter word, and discussion of that company is prohibited thereby, then I'll have different feelings about it. As it is, everybody says "Schiit" here, everybody exchanges their nods and winks over it, and no harm is done.


*groan* I'll go back to it then. TBH, I do find it interesting, only that right now it's 0406.
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Thanks for the explanation. I do get the gist of it. I want to say that the basics of it is like using the logical functions AND and OR, but the more I think on it, the more complex and convoluted that would become.
This reminds me of all the colourful ways that the Anime Thread tried to get pass the word filter for sh it since that's a common enough "word" used in romanized anything Japanese ( like shimashi//ta).
But for clarification, it's not that I am bemoaning the inability to get past the censor (well, at least when not dealing with romanized Japanese), it's that I find it intriguing and amusing.

The only confusing thing in your post is when you insert the rage guy macro.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 8:24 PM Post #15,023 of 21,761
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The only confusing thing in your post is when you insert the rage guy macro.

 
Add a CK to the end of it and you spell a word that my example will detect. But which some censorship methods won't.
 
There are ways to permit words that contain smaller bad words within them. Unfortunately that's where things can get complicated really fast, and the best approach is usually for the software to allow a whitelist of words that are OK to use.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM Post #15,024 of 21,761
Such as, say, if the second two letters were tacked onto the Rage Guy macro


added to

/facepalm

Now I understand.
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Can I say I just love the words "Crimson King"? The combination of those two words just oozes mysterious power, either sacred or eldritch. Crimson King. It feels right on the tongue. It feels like it was made to be together.

That's all for tonight's late nig- *looks out the window; sees it's getting brighter @ 0430* today's very early morning rambling from me.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM Post #15,026 of 21,761
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Out of my mien? How so? I listen to pianists. Just this morning I was listening to Lubomyr Melnyk's newest album.
 
When it comes to blending old and new cultures, one of my favorite albums is The Habibiyya's If Man But Knew (1972). It's really an incredible album, with strong Moroccan influences. In fact the band members, from the UK, became members of a sufic order during their travels.
 

 
 
 
Subjective assumption, obviously erroneous. (Lets see if that trigger SE's perpetual search)
 
If you are familiar with If Man But Knew then this may be a real treat for you. Not anywhere near new age but more of a Medieval Fusion Experiment. If you are stressed this may make it right on to your musical prescription list.
 
Balke being a pianist is almost incidental to this undertaking.
 
 
Apologies for the edit here, button failure of some sort.
 
Warren, is that you?
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Jun 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM Post #15,028 of 21,761
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speaking of RAM, am I the only one here that isn't fond of it? IMO I think  it dosen't sound as good as their previous releases......


I am definitely not a fan. Then again I suspect my prefs run upstream to the majority of the thread here.
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Jun 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM Post #15,029 of 21,761
speaking of RAM, am I the only one here that isn't fond of it? IMO I think  it dosen't sound as good as their previous releases......


That's fair. I won't deny that the overall feel and sound is kind of repetitive. I still really do like it though.
 
Jun 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM Post #15,030 of 21,761
I'm gonna have to listen to RAM now, darn it.

And no more union talk,...I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Hugs & kisses to all of ya!!! :)
 

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