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post #421 of 924
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post


I don't recall mentioning Beats. Also, I have no problem with Bass, if the artist intended for it to be there. I just feel like too many cans these days are coming out with the "U-shaped" FR curve that AnakChan describes in his review. I am not saying that these will be a poor quality set of headphones either. Just disappointed to hear that it is there. Also a little disappointed to hear everyone give a pass on it even though that is not what we were lead to believe these would be. Obviously I have not heard them(not that most people commenting have either), so there is a possibility that this is all for naught. Funny though. I say that I am now less excited based on the review and everyone jumps down my throat to defend a product that most people have not even heard yet. Settle down guys/gals. I may even like the headphone, just might not consider it the most accurate headphone out there.

 

I'm just waiting for a frequency response graph whether calling it one shape or another, too many times I've read people using the word "recessed mids" also where not appropriate. I have a feeling the graph will show very nicely balanced mids & highs. Wasn't some1 speaking of a 1.5dB or so boost in the highs only which isn't quite enough to call it U-shape in my book.

 

People may hear things differently, measurable data got more weight to it IMO which I base these things on, not on a couple of early impressions. Yes I'd be a little disappointed if it was a very U-shaped FR balance but I have a strong feeling it isn't and is more of a bass bump with neutral mids & highs-signature, I don't think so many people here would praise it otherwise either as V-shape is attractive to some people for sure but on a forum like head-fi it wouldn't recieve such a warm praise by everyone, based on my experiences.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/13/12 at 11:20am
post #422 of 924
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

Just do what people out side of this thread is doing. Wait for an unbias review. I said it earlier in the thread, the first wave of impressions/reviews will be from people trying to justify a $300 purchase.

 

I wont be trying to justify anything, as I could just return it due to their test drive and such. Either way - I will write an honest review, and make it as detailed as I possibly can. If they're bad, I'll say it, and state why. If they're good, I'll do the same. 

post #423 of 924
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post


I don't recall mentioning Beats. Also, I have no problem with Bass, if the artist intended for it to be there. I just feel like too many cans these days are coming out with the "U-shaped" FR curve that AnakChan describes in his review. I am not saying that these will be a poor quality set of headphones either. Just disappointed to hear that it is there. Also a little disappointed to hear everyone give a pass on it even though that is not what we were lead to believe these would be. Obviously I have not heard them(not that most people commenting have either), so there is a possibility that this is all for naught. Funny though. I say that I am now less excited based on the review and everyone jumps down my throat to defend a product that most people have not even heard yet. Settle down guys/gals. I may even like the headphone, just might not consider it the most accurate headphone out there.


There are so many varying degrees of "U" shape or "V" shape, one can't really put them all into a bucket.  Coloration done right can provide a superior sound to what is considered neutral and each company and sound engineers are subjectively trying to anticipate what they think is best sound balanced with what they think most consumers, including modophiles and audiophiles, will prefer.  A perfect example is the Fostex TH900, a fairly new headphone with a $2,000 pricetag and approximately a +10dB bass boost that is highly praised on Head-fi.  I love bass and feel it can't have enough depth and punch when called for in the music.  I also feel there isn't a much bigger headphone turnoff than bass bleeding into the lower mids, but some may love that.  IMO, coloration done horribly wrong is the Ultrasone Pro900, but some may love their sound. 

 

To my ears, the M-100 is much more neutral than I expected with the dynamics and punch that a fun headphone provides.  I truly feel V-Moda is right on the money with the M-100, striking the most perfect balance possible to satisfy the tastes of many and reproduce every genre I can think of with a fairly balanced presentation.  Past hype aside, the M-100 is one of the best headphones I ever heard and would freely say otherwise if I didn't believe that was the case. I look forward to your thoughts on them when they are available.

post #424 of 924
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

Just do what people out side of this thread is doing. Wait for an unbias review. I said it earlier in the thread, the first wave of impressions/reviews will be from people trying to justify a $300 purchase.

 

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I wont be trying to justify anything, as I could just return it due to their test drive and such. Either way - I will write an honest review, and make it as detailed as I possibly can. If they're bad, I'll say it, and state why. If they're good, I'll do the same. 


+1 RoMee, I don't appreciate your comment as I take my impressions and reviews very seriously knowing that some may value my opinion enough along with others collectively to make a purchase with their hard-earned dollars based on my feedback.  I don't have to justify any purchase since V-Moda has a 60-day return.

post #425 of 924
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


There are so many varying degrees of "U" shape or "V" shape, one can't really put them all into a bucket.  Coloration done right can provide a superior sound to what is considered neutral and each company and sound engineers are subjectively trying to anticipate what they think is best sound balanced with what they think most consumers, including modophiles and audiophiles, will prefer.  A perfect example is the Fostex TH900, a fairly new headphone with a $2,000 pricetag and approximately a +10dB bass boost that is highly praised on Head-fi.  I love bass and feel it can't have enough depth and punch when called for in the music.  I also feel there isn't a much bigger headphone turnoff than bass bleeding into the lower mids, but some may love that.  IMO, coloration done horribly wrong is the Ultrasone Pro900, but some may love their sound. 

 

To my ears, the M-100 is much more neutral than I expected with the dynamics and punch that a fun headphone provides.  I truly feel V-Moda is right on the money with the M-100, striking the most perfect balance possible to satisfy the tastes of many and reproduce every genre I can think of with a fairly balanced presentation.  Past hype aside, the M-100 is one of the best headphones I ever heard and would freely say otherwise if I didn't believe that was the case. I look forward to your thoughts on them when they are available.

Nicely put Craigster.  I appreciate your input and would agree with your assessment of the UE6000 and what you just wrote about the Pro900.  I hated the LP2 and thought the M80's sounded really good.  Just didn't care for the supra-aural design.  I had pretty much disregarded the M-100's if it had any sound signatures of the LP2's but from your impressions and Anak's., this sounds like something I would really enjoy, especially the bass part since it's one of the most important part of the sound sig. that I hear for.  

post #426 of 924
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

Just do what people out side of this thread is doing. Wait for an unbias review. I said it earlier in the thread, the first wave of impressions/reviews will be from people trying to justify a $300 purchase.

 

Its not like anyone couldn't sell it for $300 at a minutes notice. It wouldn't be in the For Sale section in five minutes! I don't think anyone has a reason to exaggerate. 


Edited by imackler - 10/13/12 at 12:47pm
post #427 of 924

Can anyone make a small comparison of the M100 and the Sennheiser momentum?

post #428 of 924
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Originally Posted by Towwers View Post

Can anyone make a small comparison of the M100 and the Sennheiser momentum?


Well, you have my thoughts on M-100.  I owned Momentum for a day.  While some would say that's not enough time to evaluate, I knew fairly quickly they weren't for me sonically ( although great looking, well built, light and extremely comfortable).  The highs seem artificial and harsh.  Overall detail in mids and highs inferior to M-100.  Bass is loose compared to M-100, doesn't go deep enough and goes to high into the mids to the point that I felt there was some bleed.

post #429 of 924

Speakerphile: 

I was just irritated by the statement that bassy headphones made you a non audiophile.

post #430 of 924
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Speakerphile: 
I was just irritated by the statement that bassy headphones made you a non audiophile.

Wasn't really what I was trying to get at. Just that enhanced bass and recessed mid-range are generally not qualities I would associate with an "audiophile" headphone. A more neutral sounding can is what I would expect. Maybe I used the word audiophile out of context. The information that came out of that review was just a bit of a let-down. Let's move on. I will not speak out against the beloved M-100 ever again, or at least until after I listen to it. After that, who knows, I may like it, we'll see.
post #431 of 924

I would think resolution despite sound signature would be what "audiophiles" require. V shaped can be just as resolving as neutral and visa versa.

post #432 of 924
Honest question here, could someone please help me find the link or quote of where the M-100 is associated to or labeled as an audiophile headphone? I thought I'd been following this thread and the other long M-100 thread since their existence but don't recall this association. But with the number of posts about this headphone, there's a possibility I may have missed it.
 
Also, as a reminder to all, although I won't be changing my words, I will remind all readers that this is merely what I personally hear. Craigster75 obviously has his perspective of these headphones too where you can see doesn't mirror mine. This is actually very positive as it's a reminder for the audiences to read widely and to encourage other M-100 owners to share their opinons.
post #433 of 924
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Originally Posted by jonnio View Post

So are you guys saying that you take the pads off and fill them with more stuff?
Not take the pads off, but put stuff between the "lips" of the earpad. I did a similar mod with the SRH940:


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Originally Posted by haquocdung View Post

The M100 pads isn't removable, is it?

It's already been answered, yes, but who said they don't have any replacements yet?
post #434 of 924
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
Honest question here, could someone please help me find the link or quote of where the M-100 is associated to or labeled as an audiophile headphone? I thought I'd been following this thread and the other long M-100 thread since their existence but don't recall this association. But with the number of posts about this headphone, there's a possibility I may have missed it.

 

Doesn't the M in M-100 and M-80 indicate Modiophile which according to Val means Modern Audiophile?

post #435 of 924
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

It's already been answered, yes, but who said they don't have any replacements yet?

Val said earlier on in the other thread I believe, that the LP2 cushions actually won't work for the M-100!  They look the same, but are not in fact close enough to work.  They should really put that in the description on the site soon, so people don't get confused!

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