Beats Are Magical! And Other Nearly-Criminal Marketing Schemes
Aug 11, 2012 at 3:30 AM Post #361 of 436
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You lose all your hard-won troll points if you admit what you've done to your victims. At least, that's how I lost mine.

 
Dude I've troll'd the living hell out of people that KNOW I troll the living hell out of people.  It's not just who you troll, but how you troll....then again my latest trolling was the lowest thing I've ever done XD

Then again we all know who some the biggest trolls are.  Apple, Monster, etc.
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 7:23 AM Post #362 of 436
Yes Monster do actually display very "troll like behaviour"... If being a troll is classified as going around making "intentional fallacies" as it says in that cartoon then Monster are guilty of doing that a lot. So at the end of the day the question is? Who is the troll? and the answer to that is : Monster
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 5:32 PM Post #364 of 436
Is it true that a Beats Edition Street by 50 Cent headphones will be available from November this year? With these 2 united, everybody else might as well just start making coffee machines, since Beats and Street will accidentally the whole market.
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM Post #365 of 436
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It's basically an EQ. Not even an EQ, it's a preset EQ. Which sucks. Big time. And people are paying stacks of doe for it...


While I do hate the EQ function of Beats Audio, I do like everything else about it on my HP and since I canned Windows (running Ubuntu) the "active EQ" program that is Beats Audio went away. What remains is a host of upgrades that include halfway decent speakers (though not as good as my girlfriend's speakers on her HP laptop from before the Beats branding, which only goes to prove that all the design is done in-house at HP), more attention paid to the overall design of the computer (luckily on mine the logos are rather unobtrusive), and a better DAC (which, if you're actually into audio, won't make a difference since one uses and external DAC).
 
The Beats Audio software, which I tried out before setting my computer free of Microsoft, was neat and was a novelty feature, but did less than a real EQ can do to change the sound and disguised it all in buzz words. In addition, attempting to disable the software permanently trashes the computer's EQ and turns the bass permanantly to zero and the treble permanently to ten to make it sound tinny. That is deceptive advertising if I ever heard of it.
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 7:31 PM Post #366 of 436
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While I do hate the EQ function of Beats Audio, I do like everything else about it on my HP and since I canned Windows (running Ubuntu) the "active EQ" program that is Beats Audio went away. What remains is a host of upgrades that include halfway decent speakers (though not as good as my girlfriend's speakers on her HP laptop from before the Beats branding, which only goes to prove that all the design is done in-house at HP), more attention paid to the overall design of the computer (luckily on mine the logos are rather unobtrusive), and a better DAC (which, if you're actually into audio, won't make a difference since one uses and external DAC).
 
The Beats Audio software, which I tried out before setting my computer free of Microsoft, was neat and was a novelty feature, but did less than a real EQ can do to change the sound and disguised it all in buzz words. In addition, attempting to disable the software permanently trashes the computer's EQ and turns the bass permanantly to zero and the treble permanently to ten to make it sound tinny. That is deceptive advertising if I ever heard of it.

 
Yea I noticed that everything sounds HORRID with the EQ off....actually horrid is an understatment.  I also swapped Windows for Ubuntu at one point (didn't like it only because the fan controls aren't working for me, so my computer tends to cook for no reason) and the main thing I noticed is the bass is completely toned down on my HP, and it still sounds a tad muddy (I'm blaming my DJ1's on that one), but overall it's more clear and detailed than with the Beats Audio drivers.  Somehow they made a horrible YouTube track sound decent, but playing the same track on Ubuntu 12.04LTS made the song sound like 128kbps.  Maybe Ubuntu's more honest?
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 8:29 PM Post #367 of 436
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Yea I noticed that everything sounds HORRID with the EQ off....actually horrid is an understatment.  I also swapped Windows for Ubuntu at one point (didn't like it only because the fan controls aren't working for me, so my computer tends to cook for no reason) and the main thing I noticed is the bass is completely toned down on my HP, and it still sounds a tad muddy (I'm blaming my DJ1's on that one), but overall it's more clear and detailed than with the Beats Audio drivers.  Somehow they made a horrible YouTube track sound decent, but playing the same track on Ubuntu 12.04LTS made the song sound like 128kbps.  Maybe Ubuntu's more honest?


I couldn't comment, as I have a completely custom software path set up for audio in Ubuntu. I use an ALSA bitperfect system. I think the issues that manny audio-oriented users have is with PulseAudio, which while convenient as a stock audio server isn't great if you actually like your music to sound good.
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 10:59 PM Post #368 of 436
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I couldn't comment, as I have a completely custom software path set up for audio in Ubuntu. I use an ALSA bitperfect system. I think the issues that manny audio-oriented users have is with PulseAudio, which while convenient as a stock audio server isn't great if you actually like your music to sound good.

 
Really?  Hearing that almost makes me want to switch back to Ubuntu......Almost :p
 
I'm starting to notice that the mids & highs are pretty drowned out by the bass of the audio drivers :'( I started playing with some of the knobs in Virtual DJ since I can kill highs, mids, and lows as I want to.  That's disappointing, considering that I'm thinking my headphones are only adding to the problem.  
 
Aug 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM Post #369 of 436
Really?  Hearing that almost makes me want to switch back to Ubuntu......Almost :p

I'm starting to notice that the mids & highs are pretty drowned out by the bass of the audio drivers :'( I started playing with some of the knobs in Virtual DJ since I can kill highs, mids, and lows as I want to.  That's disappointing, considering that I'm thinking my headphones are only adding to the problem.  


Nah, I think the DJ1 is perfectly fine when it comes to mud, unless compared to an electrostat or orthodynamic.
 
Aug 12, 2012 at 2:10 AM Post #370 of 436
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Nah, I think the DJ1 is perfectly fine when it comes to mud, unless compared to an electrostat or orthodynamic.

 
Then it has to be my sources....or maybe because I'm comparing them to my Audio Technica 40fs.....still the clearest headphones I've heard to date.
 
Of course I'm just beginning my journey to learning about highs, mids, and lows.

BUT ANYWAY!  Before I get too off topic, I find if funny Headfonia gave the Beats Studios a solid review.  Personally I think they don't sound as good as my DJ1's and they also don't kick as hard EQ'd.  Not bad....I'd probably pay $100 for them honestly.
 
Aug 12, 2012 at 6:55 AM Post #371 of 436
Aug 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM Post #372 of 436
Then it has to be my sources....or maybe because I'm comparing them to my Audio Technica 40fs.....still the clearest headphones I've heard to date.

Of course I'm just beginning my journey to learning about highs, mids, and lows.


BUT ANYWAY!  Before I get too off topic, I find if funny Headfonia gave the Beats Studios a solid review.  Personally I think they don't sound as good as my DJ1's and they also don't kick as hard EQ'd.  Not bad....I'd probably pay $100 for them honestly.


I never trust reviews from sites that sell you the things they review. That goes for headphones, amps, cables, and even "audio furniture".
 
Aug 12, 2012 at 12:55 PM Post #373 of 436
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I never trust reviews from sites that sell you the things they review. That goes for headphones, amps, cables, and even "audio furniture".

i don't trust reviews from places where they talk about tech in general, they always seem too lenient and summarise the sound signature into just 1 word: AMAZING

they also give a lot of emphesis to extra features too like folding, mic, detachable cable, volume control on wire, nice finish, etc while what i care about only is sound
 

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