Toxic Cables - Impressions and Discussion Thread
Jun 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM Post #3,931 of 10,312
yeah..my fathersday present came in:)
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
as u can see my new torture chair is working (it even has massage function!)..but it feels so good!
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thanks frank...this is the best torture i ever got
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first impression:
it has now been playing for 3days nonstop now..so it probabbly needs some more burn in time..but my god..its a complete different kind of animal then the single ended Black Widow cable i had ....this 8wire 22awg dual mono balanced cable...sound is so much more solid, voices sound so much more real..especially the lower voices (like the scary low voices of the leadsingers of unheilig and rammstein..they sound scary! Lolz)..and the soundstage..i have some very high quality 24bit flac songs from a live concert of queen...my god!!! Its more around u..u can really pinpoint the musicians...or even more awasome..ucan actually hear on which part the drummer hits the drum now (when the recording mic was in front of the drum ofcourse! same thing for piano!)..i dont know yet if its because the two cables are completely seperated or that my new cable has double the wires inside....but the biggest change compared to the other cables i had is this:
 
on some songs u hear two people singing..one front and one back vocals...one just a bit later or just on a lower octave..
 
on the standard cable of hifiman u only hear there is some kind of echo behind the front voice
on the double helix u can actually hear another person singing along but its very faint..almost unhearable
on the Black widow 22 awg 4 wire u can actually hear the second voice better..but u cant hear what they sing.
and now comes the biggest surprise for me: with the new cable u actually can hear the second voice what they sing! its awesome..
its as if another veil was lifted...and i am listening to my heaphone with the adapter in between!
 
i guess when my new cable is connected directlyto my amp it can only go better! damn...i now am soooo anxious getting my new balanced amp in december! my god..the coming months are going to totally kill me...
 
so guys here u have it guys and girls...am a happy camper....oops..my torture chair is waiting for me...heeeeelllllp...aarrrrrrrgggghhhhh
 
thanks frank..
 
and about the adapter...the one i have is perfect..just as the one i needed...is it maybe possible to keep this one...its perfect for me..and it saves u on extra postage and extra time to make mine...but ofcourse if u dont need it..thats naturally.... am not to greedy..and a nice kittycat
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Jun 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM Post #3,933 of 10,312
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Thanks to Frank, my portable setup is now a tad... cooler. I got a balanced interconnect between -dB and RX MK3, a Silver Widow one. There are rumours that when changing the volume, there will be a scratchy sound when the amp is in balanced mode.
 
Not so! Well... all I can say is that this does not happen with my setup. If that is down to my unit not having that error or Franks craftmanship, I couldn't tell you.
 
Anyway, here are a few pictures of the cable and my setup. 
 

Notice that Frank even aligned the logo so that when connected, they face the same way. 

Yes, that is a Silver Poison for my HE-500s...
 
Soundwise - it is different compared to single-ended. Not night-and-day, but details are a little sharper and I feel the bass is tighter and slightly stronger . I like it.

 
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Wow, it looks amazing. What wire is it? 

It's the same kind as in my other post, about a week ago: Silver Widow. Very very nice.
 
Jun 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM Post #3,934 of 10,312
Quote:
yeah..my fathersday present came in
as u can see my new torture chair is working (it even has massage function!)..but it feels so good!
biggrin.gif

thanks frank...this is the best torture i ever got
wink.gif

 
first impression:
it has now been playing for 3days nonstop now..so it probabbly needs some more burn in time..but my god..its a complete different kind of animal then the single ended Black Widow cable i had ....this 8wire 22awg dual mono balanced cable...sound is so much more solid, voices sound so much more real..especially the lower voices (like the scary low voices of the leadsingers of unheilig and rammstein..they sound scary! Lolz)..and the soundstage..i have some very high quality 24bit flac songs from a live concert of queen...my god!!! Its more around u..u can really pinpoint the musicians...or even more awasome..ucan actually hear on which part the drummer hits the drum now (when the recording mic was in front of the drum ofcourse! same thing for piano!)..i dont know yet if its because the two cables are completely seperated or that my new cable has double the wires inside....but the biggest change compared to the other cables i had is this:
 
on some songs u hear two people singing..one front and one back vocals...one just a bit later or just on a lower octave..
 
on the standard cable of hifiman u only hear there is some kind of echo behind the front voice
on the double helix u can actually hear another person singing along but its very faint..almost unhearable
on the Black widow 22 awg 4 wire u can actually hear the second voice better..but u cant hear what they sing.
and now comes the biggest surprise for me: with the new cable u actually can hear the second voice what they sing! its awesome..
its as if another veil was lifted...and i am listening to my heaphone with the adapter in between!
 
i guess when my new cable is connected directlyto my amp it can only go better! damn...i now am soooo anxious getting my new balanced amp in december! my god..the coming months are going to totally kill me...
 
so guys here u have it guys and girls...am a happy camper....oops..my torture chair is waiting for me...heeeeelllllp...aarrrrrrrgggghhhhh
 
thanks frank..
 
and about the adapter...the one i have is perfect..just as the one i needed...is it maybe possible to keep this one...its perfect for me..and it saves u on extra postage and extra time to make mine...but ofcourse if u dont need it..thats naturally.... am not to greedy..and a nice kittycat
wink.gif

 

thanks for the impression hifimanrookie.
seems like the toxic on your he500 have gone up
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Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM Post #3,936 of 10,312
Jun 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM Post #3,938 of 10,312
I ordered a '[size=9pt]Scorpion - HiFiMan HE6 HE500 HE5-LE HE4 HE300 6ft Pure OCC Stranded Pure Copper Cable Unsleeved[/size]' for my HE-300 yesterday as my stock cable broke down. The build quality seems to be excellent. Can I expect an improvement in sound quality too? How long is the delivery time at this moment? As Frank runs a one-guy business I am fully aware that it takes some time to fulfill all orders, but I'd like to get some kind of indication, if possible of course. Are we talking about a couple of weeks or perhaps a couple of months? 
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Jun 18, 2013 at 9:15 AM Post #3,939 of 10,312
I ordered a '[size=9pt]Scorpion - HiFiMan HE6 HE500 HE5-LE HE4 HE300 6ft Pure OCC Stranded Pure Copper Cable Unsleeved[/size]
' for my HE-300 yesterday as my stock cable broke down. The build quality seems to be excellent. Can I expect an improvement in sound quality too? How long is the delivery time at this moment? As Frank runs a one-guy business I am fully aware that it takes some time to fulfill all orders, but I'd like to get some kind of indication, if possible of course. Are we talking about a couple of weeks or perhaps a couple of months? 
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Honest answer is you may be looking in the region of 3 months plus. They are in very high demand, but as everyone on here will testify, they are worth the wait :)
 
Jun 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM Post #3,941 of 10,312
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Honest answer is you may be looking in the region of 3 months plus. They are in very high demand, but as everyone on here will testify, they are worth the wait
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Thanks for the superfast reply! 3 months plus is what I was afraid to hear, but in this case I can live with it. Luckily we all own a couple of headphones, so we can enjoy ourselves in the meantime.
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Jun 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM Post #3,942 of 10,312
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Thanks for the superfast reply! 3 months plus is what I was afraid to hear, but in this case I can live with it. Luckily we all own a couple of headphones, so we can enjoy ourselves in the meantime.
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It really is worth the wait, 
Frank is very reliable and looks after his customers 
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Jun 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM Post #3,943 of 10,312
It really is worth the wait, 
Frank is very reliable and looks after his customers :ksc75smile:

Yep..and as u all know i waited eons for my new balanced cable..but having god as my witness...it was so much worth it!!! Frank is for me the headphone cable guy to go..no matter in what price class ur looking for a cable.. And i have a feeling lots of us agree with me in that :wink:
 
Jun 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM Post #3,944 of 10,312
Yep..and as u all know i waited eons for my new balanced cable..but having god as my witness...it was so much worth it!!! Frank is for me the headphone cable guy to go..no matter in what price class ur looking for a cable.. And i have a feeling lots of us agree with me in that :wink:
I was just wondering since I heard the LCD-3s a few days ago, I really liked the bass quantity and balance. Would something like a silver widow make the bass less pronounced?
 
Jun 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM Post #3,945 of 10,312
I was just wondering since I heard the LCD-3s a few days ago, I really liked the bass quantity and balance. Would something like a silver widow make the bass less pronounced?

The black widow will probably be fuller sounding one..especially the 22awg 8wire version i have..it sounds more complete then its 4wire sibling..BUT...for my rig...and i mean my rig..the treble is just perfect with the he500...a brighter silver cable (sw) would be to much for me..i think i found my end game cable for my rig at this moment... My 8wire 22awg was franks first 8wire cable in such a thick cable...so iwas his test subject..and he nailed it..this is the cable i would suggest everyone for a he500...the lcd 3 is a bit brighter then the 2...the 2 does best with silver...i think if u like full meaty, natural sound..go for the bw..if u want more analictic..brighter with extreme details thingie..go for the sw.
 

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