**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**
Feb 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM Post #7,576 of 22,116
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Yes.  Correct.  I've found that a 24 gauge wire (e.g. - Mogami Neglex, Canare star quad) really works well with these connectors.  However, I've sometimes had to trim a very slight layer of the insulation off the wire for the positive conductor to get through the metal tube, so you can solder it to the tip.  The work area is small for the positive conductor.  But having a pointed soldering tip is key here.  I usually push the wire in with a small amount of insulation stripped to reveal the wire.  When I push it in, I make sure it lines up with the small tip for soldering.  I then use a toothpick to apply some flux, then move in with the soldering iron (with a heated drop of solder on the tip) and apply the solder.  This usually results in a very successful connection.  Then for the negative connection, I apply flux to the cross-hatch pattern of the connector.  I then solder the wire to the cross hatch section directly. Finally, I then use shrink tube to cover it all up and keep it secure.
 
I don't use those other outer barrels as it can tend to make the connector a bit bulky.  Also, if the wire is just slightly too thick you'll have to wrestle with them to get them in place.  Also, another option that one can do, is before applying the shrink tube, apply a drop of hot glue from a glue gun into the slot where you soldered the + wire.  This will provide some support if the wire would ever be tugged on too hard.  Additionally, to make for a very neat and professional job, apply a small wrapping of one or two layers over the connector where you will be applying the shrink tube.  This will work to smooth out some of the edges of the gold connector where you made your soldering points.
 
In the end, it will be good.  Best of luck to you !!

thanks for the tips, I believe I'll find it useful when the time comes 
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Feb 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM Post #7,577 of 22,116
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So I kind of finished EQing 
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And HE-400 sounds damn good to me just with PC Foobar2000 -> Electri-Q -> FiiO E11 High Gain, Bass Boost 1 -> HE-400
 
I'am pretty interested in how switch of E11 for Schiit Modi -> Magni will change sound.
 
As for EQ graph .. when listening to HE-400 alone I feel like vocals are far from from me and can't hear them clearly over guitars, drums etc. This little change helps a lot.
 
Lastly ... when listening from PC do u guys use windows volume on 100% or something lower ? Heard that using 100% isn't good way to go ...
 
ps : Just tried The Four Seasons from Vivaldi - Summer III:presto and it's so much better than K701 that I can't belive it.

 
Try reducing the treble in the 13-14khz region also (I use -6.5db, see my earlier post).
I found this also has a big improvement on the vocals, even though you wouldn't think it would this high up, but it does! Takes a  bit of the tizz out.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM Post #7,578 of 22,116
I just ordered a pair from Amazon.
Question- does the package include a set of velour pads- or do I need to purchase?
I'm pretty sure I'll want to change them.
If not included- where can I buy the soft velour pads that fit?

Thanks!
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM Post #7,579 of 22,116
One thing I have been reading a lot in the forums in regards to the HE-400 is the constant comparison of these headphones against the HD650. 
 
I feel like these two headphones are practically opposites in terms of their sound signature. They're so different that I'm quite confused why these seem to be the most commonly compared. Aside from the fact they are both colored, they seem to emphasize/specialize on completely different things. 
 
Is it simply because so many people in the forums have/had an HD650? 
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 PM Post #7,580 of 22,116
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Try reducing the treble in the 13-14khz region also (I use -6.5db, see my earlier post).
I found this also has a big improvement on the vocals, even though you wouldn't think it would this high up, but it does! Takes a  bit of the tizz out.

 
I saw your EQ graph :) Actually have that picture still on desktop 
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But I just don't enjoy music that much when I lower treble. I'am "treble fan" on other headphones I did kind of opposite thing, raised treble 6-7 dB, but more evenly.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM Post #7,581 of 22,116
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I just ordered a pair from Amazon.
Question- does the package include a set of velour pads- or do I need to purchase?
I'm pretty sure I'll want to change them.
If not included- where can I buy the soft velour pads that fit?

Thanks!

 
HE-400 doesn't come with velour pads. You have to ask for them extra. I got them from head-direct.com, got there also HE-400 itself.
 
 

One thing I have been reading a lot in the forums in regards to the HE-400 is the constant comparison of these headphones against the HD650. 
 
I feel like these two headphones are practically opposites in terms of their sound signature. They're so different that I'm quite confused why these seem to be the most commonly compared. Aside from the fact they are both colored, they seem to emphasize/specialize on completely different things. 
 
Is it simply because so many people in the forums have/had an HD650? 
 


 
You are not alone who don't understand why people compare these two headphones. I have both and for me there is day and night difference between them. 
 
People say that HD650 is very scalable, but I don't have any 1000$ DAC and AMP so can't judge with this equipment.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM Post #7,582 of 22,116
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I just ordered a pair from Amazon.
Question- does the package include a set of velour pads- or do I need to purchase?
I'm pretty sure I'll want to change them.
If not included- where can I buy the soft velour pads that fit?

Thanks!

You should had bought them from headamp.com. Shipping is fast (next day) and the velour pads are included for free and it's a few bucks cheaper.
 
Anyways, you can buy the velour pads here
http://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=117
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM Post #7,583 of 22,116
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One thing I have been reading a lot in the forums in regards to the HE-400 is the constant comparison of these headphones against the HD650. 
 
I feel like these two headphones are practically opposites in terms of their sound signature. They're so different that I'm quite confused why these seem to be the most commonly compared. Aside from the fact they are both colored, they seem to emphasize/specialize on completely different things. 
 
Is it simply because so many people in the forums have/had an HD650? 

It's because people typically want "the best", so when they spend around $400, they want what is the top performing headphone in that price category. Unfortunately HE400 and HD650 are as you said, almost polar opposites in terms of sound signature. You can't get the best of both worlds until you spend around $700 for HE500, or into the $1000s for certain flagships.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM Post #7,584 of 22,116
MadLustEnvy has had his fun with the LCD-2, now it's my turn. 
 
 
Upon first getting the Audeze in the mail, my first impressions:
 
- Wow this box is something else, it really is great, down to the rubberized handle and smooth latching mechanisms.  I feel like I'm carrying a 1000 dollar handgun around-- well I guess I'm not far off with the money assertion.
 
- I'm convinced I will get Rosewood when I ever do get an LCD2.  I thought the Bamboo was cool at first, but the Rosewood is absolutely a thing of beauty in person.  The fit and finish on the Rosewood LCD-2 is downright luxury.  Best looking and built can I've touched so far.  The only thing that remotely bothers me is the less-than-smooth headband adjustment.
 
- I'm picking it up-- wait, is this actually really criticized for being heavy?  I was expecting something more rock-like.  It might as well be an HE-400 to me, a really fancy looking and bigger HE-400.
 
- These cables are nice, I like the locking mechanism, the cables themselves don't ''feel'' heavy compared to the HE-400 cables, which add downward force at times.  The earpads are really plush, the headband too, but not as much.  These earpads remind me of jumbo-sized Denon D2/5/7k.
 
- Putting it on my head, it doesn't feel heavy at all or clamp that hard at all.  If I were to make a profound statement, it feels like I have Denon D2/5/7k on my head with the weight of HE-400.  I don't feel it as being heavier than HE-400 at all.  This is probably because the earpads and headband padding do such a great job of distributing the weight.  Now, I do feel a sense of pressure on the top of my head after 20-30 minutes, but a quick adjustment fixes that.  I remember this same pressure from Denon 2000 as well.  I now know what people mean by 'vacuum' or 'airplane' effect.  I'll just simple things and say that it's a 'closed headphone' effect.   
 
I enjoy the fit of the LCD-2 over the HE-400 by a good amount, I was never a fan of circular pads at all.  Now having the LCD-2 on for a good amount of time, I'm not getting hot or sweating at all.  The pleathers of the HE-400 did that.  I thank the open-back of the Audezes and the leather pads for this.  In short, the leather feels very soft and super right on my skin.  In short I think these are the best pads I've used on a headphone.  MLE should reconsider his LCD-2 comfort factor if he's so biased against the leathers, I see no reason to be.
 
 
- I've listened to my usuals so far for testing sound: Hans Zimmer, Mumford & Sons, Tool, RatM, Trentemøller etc.  So far I find lots of similarities with the HE-400, and I don't find these 'thick' or 'dark' at all, but neither did I with the HD650.  In fact these might as well be perfectly linear to me.  I havn't put HE-400 back on though, but I'll be doing a to-the-point and accurate comparison of the LCD-2 and HE-400 within the next few days.
 
 
And oh yeah, these are about as easy to drive as the HE-400.  I'm also using the Magni/Modi, so that no doubt goes a ways in my saying that I don't find the LCD-2 dark.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM Post #7,585 of 22,116
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It's because people typically want "the best", so when they spend around $400, they want what is the top performing headphone in that price category. Unfortunately HE400 and HD650 are as you said, almost polar opposites in terms of sound signature. You can't get the best of both worlds until you spend around $700 for HE500, or into the $1000s for certain flagships.

Thanks a lot for the clarification. I can understand that mentality. I was just curious if I was crazy for hearing these two as completely different. The HE-500 sounds very appealing/interesting. May need to look into that in the future. 
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM Post #7,586 of 22,116
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I saw your EQ graph :) Actually have that picture still on desktop 
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But I just don't enjoy music that much when I lower treble. I'am "treble fan" on other headphones I did kind of opposite thing, raised treble 6-7 dB, but more evenly.

 
Fair enough.. I am a treble fan too, but the HE400 is more tizzy/piercing kind of treble to me compared to my B&W MM-1 speakers which is silky smooth.
If I could make them into headphones that would be perfect, they are awesome little speakers.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM Post #7,588 of 22,116
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You should had bought them from headamp.com. Shipping is fast (next day) and the velour pads are included for free and it's a few bucks cheaper.
 
Anyways, you can buy the velour pads here
http://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=117

 
Thanks for the heads up.
I canceled Amazon and re-ordered from headamp.
Can't beat free next day ship and free pads.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM Post #7,589 of 22,116
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I would think so. Shure 840 pads fit the HE-400 and the T50rp. They fight tight, but they fit.

hm..
 
thanks, I was just wondering since it seems like the T50rp are more oval while the he-400 are circular. I'm thinking about experimenting with different pads, just not sure if the oval look of the Shure 840 pads will fit over the ring on the He-400 mount. 
 
Has anyone tried this out yet? Or am I going to be the guinea pig..? >.< 
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM Post #7,590 of 22,116
Hi again all.  I am wondering as the LCD2/3 pads have been getting great reviews here, will the Audeze pads fit on the HE-400?  I 'd like to try them out if they do.
 
TIA.
 
PS. I love the sub bass on the HE400's.  I sure does go deep. And not a hint of distortion.  Listening to Disturbed, some HF's can't handle the fast bass guitar.  Causes distortion.  With the HE400 no such problem.  Everything sounds perfect.  These are fantastic.  I am glad I own them, even though I sold all my others to afford them.  I'll have to really save my pennies if I want the LCD2.
 

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