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Jan 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM Post #8,596 of 13,350
  Problem is, is those 6" cables generally have enough bend in them that it causes the modi or whatever to lift it's back end up. I got a foot and a half ones and I just roll em up right behind everything.


Yes, that is true, it will lift he back of the amp up off the DAC, but I usually use a rubber band around the Pyst cables to hold them in the right position.

 
Jan 28, 2015 at 11:06 PM Post #8,597 of 13,350
Got my Valhalla 2 today. Been listening to it for a few hours and it can now be used to make a toasted cheese sandwich. This is some hot Schiit.
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Jan 28, 2015 at 11:35 PM Post #8,599 of 13,350
i really gotta ask this. some people said the heat is exaggerated, and it won't burn anybody's hands or fingers anytime soon.
some other people, one or two among those i personally think are level-headed head-fi member, uses creative terms to describe it's heat.
 
Cooking some egg, or like yours, making toast sandwich.
 
Seriously, how hot is the schiit gear like asgard and valhalla actually is?
This mystery is wrinkling my brain...
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 11:39 PM Post #8,600 of 13,350
   
What we gotta know is how the Black Lyr, Valhalla2 and Magni stack up!
You're killin' us here!
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With my HD650s the Lyr Noir blows the others out of the water. It just has so much headroom. Unfortunately it also has some low level static on the right channel, so it has to go back to the Schiit house for a spa treatment. The good folks at Schiit have been right on top of things and even offered a full refund. But I'll never part with it. It's a keeper!
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 11:46 PM Post #8,601 of 13,350
  i really gotta ask this. some people said the heat is exaggerated, and it won't burn anybody's hands or fingers anytime soon.
some other people, one or two among those i personally think are level-headed head-fi member, uses creative terms to describe it's heat.
 
Cooking some egg, or like yours, making toast sandwich.
 
Seriously, how hot is the schiit gear like asgard and valhalla actually is?
This mystery is wrinkling my brain...

The Valhalla 2 gets HOT!! I'll bet you could bake cookies on it. Really!! The Lyr runs class A so it's very hot too. It's the nature of the beast.
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Jan 28, 2015 at 11:49 PM Post #8,602 of 13,350
  The Valhalla 2 gets HOT!! I'll bet you could bake cookies on it. Really!! The Lyr runs class A so it's very hot too. It's the nature of the beast.
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can you touch and move it aside while it's playing?
 
sometimes i move my mini schiit out of the way on my desk when i'm doing something. or sometimes i put my foot above my desk and my heel is touching the mini schiit.
 
is it hot to the touch like, "oh schiit i just touch a boiling water", or like "i just touched a cup of hot tea"
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 11:59 PM Post #8,604 of 13,350
   
can you touch and move it aside while it's playing?
 
sometimes i move my mini schiit out of the way on my desk when i'm doing something. or sometimes i put my foot above my desk and my heel is touching the mini schiit.
 
is it hot to the touch like, "oh schiit i just touch a boiling water", or like "i just touched a cup of hot tea"

I can take some temperature measurements. I'll do that tomorrow. The Valhalla was so hot that I could not leave my hand on it.
 
But keep in mind it is designed to run hot. Max power into 300 ohms is about 1 watt. Power consumption of the Valhalla 2 is rated at 40 watts. A lot of that 40 watts is creating heat.
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 12:08 AM Post #8,605 of 13,350
Here is something I found on the net:
 


too hot = 120 degrees F. (48 degrees C.) Anything above this is scalding and can damage human tissue

just too hot to touch = 107 degrees F. (42 degrees C.)

comfortably hot = 90 to 100 degrees F. (32 to 37 degrees C.)

luke warm = 80 to 85 degrees F. (26 to 29 degrees C.) Equivalent to skin temperature (hence testing baby formula on the wrist)

tepid = air temperature, or 72 to 76 degrees F. (22 to 24 degrees C.)

cool to the touch = just below air temperature, or 50 to 65 degrees F. (10 to 18 degrees C.)

very cold = 40 to 32 degrees F. or below (4 to 0 degrees C.) You have very limited
time at which you can stay alive in this temperature.
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 1:00 AM Post #8,606 of 13,350
  With my HD650s the Lyr Noir blows the others out of the water. It just has so much headroom. Unfortunately it also has some low level static on the right channel, so it has to go back to the Schiit house for a spa treatment. The good folks at Schiit have been right on top of things and even offered a full refund. But I'll never part with it. It's a keeper!


"Lyr Noir" I like that.. I really like that.  very sharp : )
I assumed that for the 300 ohm HD650, that the Valhalla would output more power and had a leg up as opposed to the Lyr.  The Lyr outputs 660mw @ 300 ohms and the Valhalla outputs 800mW @ 300 ohms.  But I was certain that the hybrid nature of the Lyr had a big influence on the final equation.
 
Sadly I did not have the privelege of owning the Lyr ant Valhalla at the same time (I owned them on separate occasions) so I appreciate sharing your thoughts.
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 8:19 AM Post #8,607 of 13,350
 
"Lyr Noir" I like that.. I really like that.  very sharp : )
I assumed that for the 300 ohm HD650, that the Valhalla would output more power and had a leg up as opposed to the Lyr.  The Lyr outputs 660mw @ 300 ohms and the Valhalla outputs 800mW @ 300 ohms.  But I was certain that the hybrid nature of the Lyr had a big influence on the final equation.
 
Sadly I did not have the privelege of owning the Lyr ant Valhalla at the same time (I owned them on separate occasions) so I appreciate sharing your thoughts.

It's early days yet. I will continue to compare my Schiit and will report back from time to time. I'm not sure if there is a class A sound, but so far I prefer the Lyr. Pity it will be  unavailable to me for a few weeks.
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 8:34 AM Post #8,608 of 13,350
Hi there! Looking for some schiity insight into Asgard 2 vs. Lyr 2.
 
I am looking into pairing the Hifiman 560's with either the Schiit Asgard 2 or the Lyr 2. Considering I listen to alot of electronic music (not only) and value a warm sounding amp with good clarity and quantity in deep sub-bass (in addition to overall great fidelity), which of these amps would pair best with the 560's? Value per dollar is not important, but achieving that deep sub-bass is. 
 
Curveball: What if we start tube rolling the Lyr2? Which tubes, if any, would give the Lyr2 a clear advantage over the Asgaard2 in this regard? (Seeing how some describe the Asgard as already slightly warm).
 
ps. I have tried the LCD-2 (fazors) quickly but felt the 560 where much more comfortable on my head, should I still consider the LCD-2 again?
 
Thanks!
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 9:38 AM Post #8,609 of 13,350
^^ Lyr 2 is fantastic with the he560. Put a decent set of Russian tubes or similar for $50 and you'll be in heaven. The Asgard 2 is also very good but the lyr 2 fits your description of what you want best. 
 
gL!!
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 10:25 AM Post #8,610 of 13,350
  Hi there! Looking for some schiity insight into Asgard 2 vs. Lyr 2.
 
I am looking into pairing the Hifiman 560's with either the Schiit Asgard 2 or the Lyr 2. Considering I listen to alot of electronic music (not only) and value a warm sounding amp with good clarity and quantity in deep sub-bass (in addition to overall great fidelity), which of these amps would pair best with the 560's? Value per dollar is not important, but achieving that deep sub-bass is. 
 
Curveball: What if we start tube rolling the Lyr2? Which tubes, if any, would give the Lyr2 a clear advantage over the Asgaard2 in this regard? (Seeing how some describe the Asgard as already slightly warm).
 
ps. I have tried the LCD-2 (fazors) quickly but felt the 560 where much more comfortable on my head, should I still consider the LCD-2 again?
 
Thanks!

 
Haven't heard Lyr 2, but I've had Asgard 2, and while it's a very nice amp (especially for the price!) I found it to be somewhat lacking in the bass department.
 

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