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post #1 of 5240
Thread Starter 
I posted this elsewhere already, but thought I would post it here also since many users here might be interested to do this:
 
 
Hi everyone, 

Thought I would post about an Android issue that is bugging me - the fact that despite USB Host functionality being present in ICS, USB DACs (digital audio converters, external sound cards if you will) do not work with our devices .  

If they did work then we could use relatively cheap USB DACs with our Android phones and enjoy great music sound quality, no matter which cheap DAC/DSP the manufacturer has seen fit to include. Ever since I sold my Galaxy S, which has an excellent Wolfson DAC and can produce awesome sound quality with Voodoo Sound, the sound quality of my subsequent devices has rankled. Now with ICS this is a simple software fix, which makes it all the more irritating (someone has managed to add support for these in a Nook Colour kernel that works with CM9). To be honest I'm seriously considering buying an iPhone for the first time ever because they have this functionality out of the box. 

Fortunately there is something we can do about this besides making ineffectual unhappy noises and waiting for customs ROMs etc to fix this - vote the issue up here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614&sort=-stars&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars 

To vote just star the issue. 

This issue needs 1200 votes to enter the top ten, which doesn't seem a big ask given the hundreds of millions of Android users out there...  

Please star this and share this out to your social networks - help save me from having to continue think about getting an iPhone! 

[UPDATE: Since starting to campaign for this issue 45 stars received so far, issue raised 11 places - thanks all who have voted so far - lets keep going!]

Edited by NZtechfreak - 8/22/12 at 6:25pm
post #2 of 5240

Voted for it as I want my Samsung Galaxy S II to have this when it gets ICS. 

post #3 of 5240
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scohen158 View Post

Voted for it as I want my Samsung Galaxy S II to have this when it gets ICS. 



Many thanks, seems like there are a few Android users here, so hopefully we can get this issue up the ladder!

 

Incidentally, 56 new votes today, issue up 12 places.

post #4 of 5240

I would LOVE to have the flexibility of choosing a new Android smartphone or tablet and being able to send USB out to one of the many, many portable DAC/AMP combos that are on the market.

 

Not knowing (personally) how Google prioritizes things, how likely is this to happen?

post #5 of 5240

@Nztechfreak

 

Thanks!

post #6 of 5240
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Originally Posted by iahtoyhz View Post

I would LOVE to have the flexibility of choosing a new Android smartphone or tablet and being able to send USB out to one of the many, many portable DAC/AMP combos that are on the market.

 

Not knowing (personally) how Google prioritizes things, how likely is this to happen?

 

It will happen.
 
According to Android specifications, USB audio is included in Android 3.1 or newer platforms.
 
It is up to Google for its reference Nexus devices and the other Android device manufacturers to support or enable the USB audio feature on their devices.
 
Example: The Android 3.2 powered Archos G9 tablet interworks with a USB DAC/amp FiiO E17
 
 
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Version 3.2.22 - September 2nd, 2011: no USB audio support!
Initial Honeycomb 3.2 firmware release
 
Version 3.2.77 - December 6th, 2011
Accessories: external USB audio cards (DAC) support has been added
 
Version 3.2.78 - December 19th, 2011
Audio accessory: fix USB DAC not supporting 44.1kHz
 
 
We should put pressure on Google, and therefore on the Android device manufacturers.
 
post #7 of 5240

This is the only feature that can tempt me to buy an android

post #8 of 5240

Starred smile.gif

 

My Nexus S is running ICS and my Galaxy Tab 10.1 will get the upgrade soon enough.

post #9 of 5240

Where have you posted this thus far? I can add it to a few other places. 

post #10 of 5240

Forget USB, and lose the cable.  What we should be advocating, and what I am waiting for is for wireless streaming from an Android device to a DAC via Bluetooth or Wifi.  As I understand it, the AptX codec needs to be supported by the DAC and the streming device.  That's the way to go, rather than tethering via USB.

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Commented the developer thread!  This feature may be the last nail in the coffin to move from my antiquated nokias to android ICSregular_smile%20.gif

post #12 of 5240

Voted as the standard sound quality of my HTC Desire S is quite poor.

The suggested wireless alternative is indeed a better solution, however are there any wireless portable DAC/AMPS available?

Since there are many portable USB DAC/AMP's available alread, I'd prefer that Google enables "usbaudio" first.

In fact I consider it quite surprising Google didn't do so earlier, particularly as this feature has been available for a long time already on IOS devices.

 

post #13 of 5240

Starred this. Please everyone vote this up. Only a few stars are needed to move this up a couple more places.

post #14 of 5240

Their is a USB driver that is in Ice Cream Sandwich that is meant for connecting USB items to your phone.

post #15 of 5240
I couldn't agree more. I have been looking at replacing my heavy 17" laptop with something akin to the Asus transformer tablet, but have been unsure whether I'd regret losing the ability to use foobar, USB 3.0, etc and a multitude of great USB DAC functionality I currently enjoy. It would also be nice to be able to use my Moto Photon 4G phone in the same way, but Motorola is always behind though on what version of Android they accept, so fat chance of that ever coming to fruition.

Also your avatar is adorable and makes me grab one of my cats for some lap time every time I see it. Kittens FTW. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

 

It will happen.
 
According to Android specifications, USB audio is included in Android 3.1 or newer platforms.
 
It is up to Google for its reference Nexus devices and the other Android device manufacturers to support or enable the USB audio feature on their devices.
 
Example: The Android 3.2 powered Archos G9 tablet interworks with a USB DAC/amp FiiO E17
 
 
350x263px-LL-bd7270ff_FIIOE17_15.jpeg
 
 
Version 3.2.22 - September 2nd, 2011: no USB audio support!
Initial Honeycomb 3.2 firmware release
 
Version 3.2.77 - December 6th, 2011
Accessories: external USB audio cards (DAC) support has been added
 
Version 3.2.78 - December 19th, 2011
Audio accessory: fix USB DAC not supporting 44.1kHz
 
 
We should put pressure on Google, and therefore on the Android device manufacturers.
 
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