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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

This doesn't really answer your question, but I do find that the iBasso D12 does have a clearer, purer, less gritty sound than the FiiO E17.
Is the d12 and dzero almost the same? smily_headphones1.gif
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The D12 uses two DACs and costs almost three times as much as the D-Zero, so I would think that the D12 is a more sophisticated design.
I really don't know much more than that. Sorry!
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400 pages and I don't think I have the time to read all pages :P

I just wanted to ask, what is the best way to hook up an iPod nano 7G to the Fiio e17? Currently my setup is iPod nano 7G + lightning to 30pin adapter + Fiio L9 LOD + Fiio e17 + shure se535
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Originally Posted by soundofpraise View Post

400 pages and I don't think I have the time to read all pages :P

I just wanted to ask, what is the best way to hook up an iPod nano 7G to the Fiio e17? Currently my setup is iPod nano 7G + lightning to 30pin adapter + Fiio L9 LOD + Fiio e17 + shure se535
No, you have time. Do it.
biggrin.gifwink.gif Just kidding.

For Lightning Apple devices, its actually recommended by some to use direct headphone out of it to your amplifier.

Why? The adapter itself has a built in DAC. It has to as Lightning is now a full digital format. Which is also why the adapter is bit more expensive than one would expect. but of course, the DAC in it is of pretty low quality it seems. Most feedback of it was pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by soundofpraise View Post

400 pages and I don't think I have the time to read all pages :P

I just wanted to ask, what is the best way to hook up an iPod nano 7G to the Fiio e17? Currently my setup is iPod nano 7G + lightning to 30pin adapter + Fiio L9 LOD + Fiio e17 + shure se535

Hi Sir, does the e17 sound good in your 535? Thanks! smily_headphones1.gif
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Personally, I hear a bit of "zzzzz" thru the E17 when I use my Shure SE-210 IEMs
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My GS2 and iPod Classic 5G both died in the last two weeks so I bought a Galaxy S4 as it was upgrade time.  I want to use S4->E17->Q701/HD25-1 II/ HiFiman HE400's depending on the situation.  What USB OTG cable should I be looking at to bring it all together?  My iPOd set up was piss easy!

 

TIA

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Originally Posted by clown1925 View Post

Hi Sir, does the e17 sound good in your 535? Thanks! smily_headphones1.gif

I hear a hiss through my shure se535. Even if gain is 0. Plugging the shures straight into the headphone jack on my iPod nano 7G eliminates the hiss. im not sure what's causing the hiss from the e17. Maybe double amping? Or the DAC chip? I dont know how this works but Im using the LOD so im guessing through the AUX you're using pure amp so..... double amping?

Besides the hiss, the sound seems good. I do not have anything to compare it with so my "good" may be biased. Adjusting the bass to 4 or 6 and the treble to 2 or 4 makes the SE535 sound balanced with a little low end kick. The shure se535 has become my own operational definition of mind-blowing detail from an analytical perspective.

[edit] oh yeah and i never owned a DAC/Amp so i dont know what would be considered good for a DAC/Amp. [edit]
Edited by soundofpraise - 7/19/13 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

No, you have time. Do it.
biggrin.gifwink.gif Just kidding.

For Lightning Apple devices, its actually recommended by some to use direct headphone out of it to your amplifier.

Why? The adapter itself has a built in DAC. It has to as Lightning is now a full digital format. Which is also why the adapter is bit more expensive than one would expect. but of course, the DAC in it is of pretty low quality it seems. Most feedback of it was pretty bad.

Hahaha thanks for the info that clears up a lot of impressions I had. so really if I wanted the best sound quality using the E17, I would need an iDevice that uses the 30pin not the lightning for the L9 LOD or 30pin to USB cable?
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Originally Posted by soundofpraise View Post

Hahaha thanks for the info that clears up a lot of impressions I had. so really if I wanted the best sound quality using the E17, I would need an iDevice that uses the 30pin not the lightning for the L9 LOD or 30pin to USB cable?
30pin to USB last I checked will only work as you think it will work if you use it with something like a CLAS

So yeah, for best SQ of E17 +iPod, its best to have one with 30 pin.
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Originally Posted by soundofpraise View Post


Hahaha thanks for the info that clears up a lot of impressions I had. so really if I wanted the best sound quality using the E17, I would need an iDevice that uses the 30pin not the lightning for the L9 LOD or 30pin to USB cable?

Or you can just do as ClieOS states in his review here, just use the headphone out. Raise the volume to max, drop it 3 steps and you have an approximate line out level.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/635800/impression-apple-nano-7g-lightning-to-30pin-adapter

 

Mini to Mini cable is all you would need.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post


30pin to USB last I checked will only work as you think it will work if you use it with something like a CLAS

So yeah, for best SQ of E17 +iPod, its best to have one with 30 pin.

oh man thats a big bummer. so really the best thing so get best sound quality without buying a new iDevice is to upgrade to a different DAC/Amp..... i should have kept my old iphone 4s

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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Or you can just do as ClieOS states in his review here, just use the headphone out. Raise the volume to max, drop it 3 steps and you have an approximate line out level.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/635800/impression-apple-nano-7g-lightning-to-30pin-adapter

 

Mini to Mini cable is all you would need.

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awesome! hey thx trolldragon! :Dbeerchug.gif

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Ok, i so i had the E17s and thought that using a Fiio L9 LOD bypasses both the amp/ dac of my iPods but that wasn't the case it seems. The LOD only bypassed the internal amp of my iPod so there is no double amping going on.  Now i am wondering if there is anyway to bypass both the dac/amp of my iPods/ smartphone using cables like these.....???

 

Will i be able to use the dac function of the E17 with a micro usb to mirco usb cable connected via your smartphone to the E17 like so:

... this in theory should bypass not jut the internal amp of the smartphone but the dac as well no??? Or wait, is this similar to the ipod LODs that just bypasses the ipods amp???

 

Wait a minute here, what does this set up do when connected with the OTG micro usb cable from a smartphone to say a external dac/amp via USB?

... is this just bypassing only the amp of the smartphone as well??? Or is it bypassing both dac/amp. confused_face_2.gif

 

Also will something like this bypass the internal dac/amp of my iPod so i can use the dac/amp of the E17 via connecting it to it's mico USB port???

...  if this thing was a cable like those iPod LODs why of course.

 

Thanks!!!

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No. The only way to bypass the DAC of Apple devices is with the $500+ CLAS, HPP1, Vmoda Verza, Sony blah blah etc etc

 

Why? These companies paid apple a LOT of money to get the lisence to allow for them to get the 'code' to bypass the iPod's own DAC. You need a special device for this.

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