The discovery thread!
Jul 4, 2016 at 5:35 PM Post #32,236 of 101,459
I know we're not supposed to talk about the **** but, I am looking to see what foam tips work well, does anyone have an idea for good fit? I think the ones that it came with look like the Comply TS 400s, just not sure. The package came with black and blue ones. The black lasted about three weeks, trying the blue one now...


Seriously? C'mon man. How many threads were closed while that fiasco was being investigated?
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 6:12 PM Post #32,237 of 101,459
Ok, the administrators may not like the shenanigans that went on in that thread, but I just purchased these for my own pleasure and am asking a legitimate question. This cannot be misconstrued as having anything to do with that. I had nothing to do with the distributor nor the people involved. If they don't like my questions, they can PM me to stop. I can't believe they'd censor common curiosity and inquiries around the product.

You can act all Harry Potter-like and call it 'the IEM that shall not be named' (titsnbn), just looking for a simple answer...
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 6:30 PM Post #32,239 of 101,459
Ok, the administrators may not like the shenanigans that went on in that thread, but I just purchased these for my own pleasure and am asking a legitimate question. This cannot be misconstrued as having anything to do with that. I had nothing to do with the distributor nor the people involved. If they don't like my questions, they can PM me to stop. I can't believe they'd censor common curiosity and inquiries around the product.

You can act all Harry Potter-like and call it 'the IEM that shall not be named' (titsnbn), just looking for a simple answer...

Shenanigans or not, but it's still off limits to discuss it. Thus it isn't a legitimate question on this forum.
 
"Easy Earphone is now banned and blacklisted from Head-Fi. Links to, and discussion of them, as well as "DQSM" products are no longer allowed. That includes Amazon links."
 
So don't believe it, but the fact is that they have censored inquiries about the product. Take it up with the mods if you like, but until they tell you that it's fine for you to talk about it (which they won't), could you try to not ruin it for the rest of us?
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 6:33 PM Post #32,240 of 101,459
Ok, bye
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 10:23 PM Post #32,241 of 101,459
Speaking of you all know...
 
If you Google it you will find links going to rplay.info stuff with genuine looking Head-Fi banner and all, but you are asked to login with your facebook credentials.
 
Looks fishy to me or am I missing something?
 
Maybe a FB group continuing where they left off here?
 
Info via PM would be great. Thxs.
 
Cheers
 
Jul 5, 2016 at 1:06 AM Post #32,242 of 101,459
Just got a pair of the translucent KZ ATE with the mic. Decided to go with the "airsspu" re-brand because from the photos on amazon it looked like it would be coming with hybrid knockoffs for tips. Unfortunately it came with only 2 plastic and 1 foam pairs just like the kz packaging.

All of that aside, what an incredible find. These IEMs are a testament to just how far in ear headphone technology has come in just a few years.

First thing's first, these are not giant killers, they will not compete with any of the current flagship IEMs and almost all modern mid-tier will be better. However, when you start to compare these to some of the high level headphones of the past, like the Tf10s or the Monster Miles Davis edition, it's mind blowing that these cost less than a lunch at Applebee's.

There have been other more detailed reviews, so I'll just give my good and bad. (Note, this is new out of the box with about 2 hours of listening)

Highlights:
* everything from about 800hz-1.5khz has a depth and richness that isn't found in the rest of the range. These really shine with electric guitar.
* These have some of the widest soundstaging I've ever heard, and I never would have expected this kind of depth of field from IEMs costing anything less than at least $100.
* The separation is also some of the best I've heard from an IEM and is on par with many IEMs at or above $100

Lowlights:
* the massive roll off Around 10khz leaves a dull finish to a lot of music. There's no shimmer to the sound and treble fans will be disappointed.
* while the bass extension is good, and there's plenty of speed to it, there's a "boomieness" to the bass that almost hurts my ears on bass heavy tracks. I tried Above and Beyond's Group Therapy album, and The Robert Glasper Experiment's Black Radio. Both were almost too much to listen to. I'm hoping that some burn-in might help this. If not, I'll try to eq it out.
* Nozzle demands a deeper insertion. The way these are built, the nozzle the tips mount on is quite long. Because of this shape, they don't fit in your ear without an insertion that's much deeper than I use on most IEMs. That deep insertion ends up hurting my ears after 20-30 minutes.

I look back on the years I've spent in this hobby, and even back on where this thread started, and the sound from the KZ ATE truly astonishes me. Back when I bought my first pair of Phillips SHE9700, if you told me this kind of sound would be available for the same price I paid for those, I would have called you a liar and bet you $100 it wasn't possible.

The KZ ATE would have cost me a $100, because I would have lost that bet.
 
Jul 5, 2016 at 2:17 AM Post #32,243 of 101,459
Highlights:
* everything from about 800hz-1.5khz has a depth and richness that isn't found in the rest of the range. These really shine with electric guitar.
* These have some of the widest soundstaging I've ever heard, and I never would have expected this kind of depth of field from IEMs costing anything less than at least $100.
* The separation is also some of the best I've heard from an IEM and is on par with many IEMs at or above $100

I don`t know which version exactly Your have (there are at least 4 variations sold) but I have 2nd version translucent black ATE with vent holes open near nozzle lower part on housing and with metal cable "reliefs" - they do have amazing depth and soundstaging for IEM and I`m comparing it even with my Fidelio X1 + modified Aune T1 @ Siemens E88CC goldpin tube setup which is quite a soundstage "monster". Rich full sound along with this kind of soundstage gives pretty great result. 
I`m still grabbing sometimes for my heavily modified ATE FF-mod instead HLSX808 RAW-mod (BA+DD) due to soundstage depth and "out of the head" distant presentation. To me they sound like open-back full-size cans.
 
Lowlights:
* the massive roll off Around 10khz leaves a dull finish to a lot of music. There's no shimmer to the sound and treble fans will be disappointed.
* while the bass extension is good, and there's plenty of speed to it, there's a "boomieness" to the bass that almost hurts my ears on bass heavy tracks. I tried Above and Beyond's Group Therapy album, and The Robert Glasper Experiment's Black Radio. Both were almost too much to listen to. I'm hoping that some burn-in might help this. If not, I'll try to eq it out.
* Nozzle demands a deeper insertion. The way these are built, the nozzle the tips mount on is quite long. Because of this shape, they don't fit in your ear without an insertion that's much deeper than I use on most IEMs. That deep insertion ends up hurting my ears after 20-30 minutes.

About these - You need modifications to remove those "issues" and proper wide bore silicone tips for deep insertion.
I recommend trying Huast H10 or KZ whirlwind smallest tips (which aren`t included in stock package).  

Original wide-bore Philips UE tips should also fit nicely but haven`t tried it with stock nozzle and can`t try/recommend about stock nozzle anymore because I`m using ED9 brass nozzles on my ATE.
I have made following modifications to my ATE:
* Top plastic covers removed and replaced with wood backplates.
* Golden mesh-grills taken from inside and installed inside wood backplate, right above driver unit without gap to driver shell.
* Plastic nozzles have been cut off, sanded level/even, over-drilled holes and replaced with ED9 brass nozzles.
* Body behind backplates has been sanded down to lower enclosure shape reaching out of ear.
* Cable changed for "IE800" style cable with memory wire.
* Using with KZ whirlwind, JVC spiral dot or no-name ultra-soft white silicones tips
* ED9 brass nozzle tip has been grinded shorter on top part to the next "edge" it has and inside hole edge has been grinded concave, like "trompet".
* and to me (subjective) best combination was closed brass nozzle breathing hole with half-open ATE plastic enclosure hole. Though, leaving latter full-open + closed brass nozzle hole was also very good.

 
Wish You could try Your ATE in modified configuration - it is way better than stock 
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Jul 5, 2016 at 7:54 AM Post #32,246 of 101,459
About these - You need modifications to remove those "issues" and proper wide bore silicone tips for deep insertion.
I recommend trying Huast H10 or KZ whirlwind smallest tips (which aren`t included in stock package).  


Thanks for the info! I'll do some wide bore tip rolling. About all of those other mods.... Well... That's probably way beyond my level of technical competence. But that pair of yours looks incredible.

Cheers!
 
Jul 6, 2016 at 10:09 PM Post #32,249 of 101,459
Good looking microdriver-IEM. How's the isolation?

 
Haven't really spent enough time with them to really have much of a handle on that yet. All they've needed to block out is the fan behind me. For now I'll say; below average with the included silicone tips, maybe average to slightly above average with the included Isolation 400 Comply tips.
 
Edit: And yes, they are lookers. I'm absolutely loving the cable though. Completely overkill for such a small, light earphone 
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