[sfwalcer]

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Haven't seen much in the way of comment on the Zero Audio DX-200 Carbo Tenore...I got these, have listened to them a bit. Very nice sounding headphones, I'd say solid bass (haven't heard the Carbo Basso, but these are tight, in no way lacking on the low end. If those have more, must be monsters!), nice highs, the midrange is smooth but slightly recessed. I don't notice it much on tracks with few instruments around the vocalist, but start to add pieces to the band, it becomes a bit harder to make out lyrics. On the other hand, soundstage is CRAZY! I'm not actually all that interested in iem soundstage. Listen for it on my speaker set up, but the idea of the band spread across your head being realistic doesn't make much sense to me. Having said that, I really like the width of the staging on these things, have many iem's at this point (thanks to this thread and the bargain threads), don't think any of them does it the way these do. Initial impressions, going to listen some more...

Great stuff doc!!! Keep em' coming.

 
@WAYNE
 
3 words the man like his....
............and i ain't talkin' 'bout steak or iems.

 

[waynes world]

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Haven't seen much in the way of comment on the Zero Audio DX-200 Carbo Tenore...I got these, have listened to them a bit. Very nice sounding headphones, I'd say solid bass (haven't heard the Carbo Basso, but these are tight, in no way lacking on the low end. If those have more, must be monsters!), nice highs, the midrange is smooth but slightly recessed. I don't notice it much on tracks with few instruments around the vocalist, but start to add pieces to the band, it becomes a bit harder to make out lyrics. On the other hand, soundstage is CRAZY! I'm not actually all that interested in iem soundstage. Listen for it on my speaker set up, but the idea of the band spread across your head being realistic doesn't make much sense to me. Having said that, I really like the width of the staging on these things, have many iem's at this point (thanks to this thread and the bargain threads), don't think any of them does it the way these do. Initial impressions, going to listen some more...

 
Lol! Yeah, it doesn't make sense until you hear it, and then it becomes totally addictive and hard to live without! That fullness/soundstaging is what I'm loving so much about the bassos/1k's as well.
 
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Loving my iems wayne, about the corecool v2 they sound excellent out of the box and I bet after 300hrs they will be on killer level

 
Excellent. I'm pretty sure they are worthy, and based on some of the things that you've said (like below), I get the sense they sound similar to the 1k's:
 
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The corecool v2 has stronger bass impact and better subbass texture the the fxz200 and gr07 bass edition while having more detailed mids then both as well and very amazing treble crunch to boot as well. Soundstage more spaced out then both and imaging that is crazy addicting

 
Assuming they are, do you get the sense that the v2's have a fuller sound, a larger soundstage (width and especially depth), better layering and instrument imaging, and a more 3d like sound than the BE's?

 

[mochill]

Yes at above , but I still enjoy my BE'S as much for its transperacy

 

[TekeRugburn]

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Maybe. But not for my ears (as handicapped as they may be lol). It's even more pronounced when compared to the cks1000's - those puppies have an incredibly full sound, with a huge soundstage (width, depth, layering, imaging, instrument separation etc). It was when comparing the BE's to the 1000's that I first determined that I found the BE's to sound somewhat 2 dimensional (ie thin sounding) when compared to the 1k's 3D sound. Same thing but to a lesser extent with the basso's.
 
When I push the BE's in my ears further and hold them there, I get more of the full sound that I'm looking for (except that the bass is then too much), but I can't get that kind of a seal no matter what tips I use with them. Whereas with the basso's and 1k's, that fuller sound/soundstage is just there regardless of the tips or the seal.
 
Anyway I'm not trying to denigrate the BE's, because like I said, once my ears become readjusted to them I really do love their sound. But to me, the basso's and 1k's have that fullness and soundstaging that really appeals to me.

 
ohhhh.... okay...thats what you meant as thin.  

 

[TekeRugburn]

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I personally haven't heard his Xears, but he did say that he wasn't good with words. I guess there is probably going to be a lower level tilt but the rest of it is going to be neutral. "..-------"

 
oh okay.... makes sense if its meant that way.
 
It's just hard to understand sometimes as its hard to describe sound a lot of the time

 

[waynes world]

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Yes at above

, but I still enjoy my BE'S as much for its transperacy

 
"Yes at above" translates to "Yes, the V2's are friggin' awesome". And indeed, the BE's are amazing as well, but just in a different way.

 

[waynes world]

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ohhhh.... okay...thats what you meant as thin.  

 
Yeah, I should probably take a trip to the glossary lol.

 

[Mackem]

Man I can't wait for my Carbo Bassos to get here so I can ditch these FX101s!

 

[d marc0]

Man I can't wait for my Carbo Bassos to get here so I can ditch these FX101s!

Oh man, you are in for a treat! I had the FX3X and they don't even compare to the DX210s. The JVC has impressive bass, the DX210 is impressive as a whole. Once you have it, listen to some remastered Michael Jackson hits and you'll be amazed with its 3D-like presentation and that head shaking RUMBLE from the subbass just as Wayne described! I just love it!

Oh, just to add a bit: acoustic guitars sounds so REAL with them. Decay and timbre are very well presented.

 

[glorfybe]

oh okay.... makes sense if its meant that way.

It's just hard to understand sometimes as its hard to describe sound a lot of the time

Not used to putting what I hear on show. Long time lurker who never registered, but have never purchased any music gear without checking head-fi first. What I think I mean(!) is that the sub bass is powerful but does not bleed in to the other frequencies. I'm not used to hearing so much bass without hearing mud. I'm coming from dual ba q-jays. I'm not missing them - that may not be a very scientific way to describe things but its the best I can do at the moment. It's why I purchased the Sony mh1c's, to try and give some perspective to what I'm hearing. I can see why people rave about the mh1c. I prefer them to my q-jays as well, but the cable is unforgivable!

 

[glorfybe]

My ears were spoiled by my ruggedly burned in JVC-FX40; I don't think I can every find anything that contained that level of brightness in the cheapo category. If I can find them I'll probably use them as the reference point for my impressions. The 40s also had less boom and more tightness for me when it came to the base department. With your Xears did you have to extensively burn them in or is it like Mochill (?) stated they--his Corecool v2--sound great out of the box and only need a short burn-in period?

Out of the box they sounded terrible. Big bloated bass that ruined even bass light tunes. The Carpenters and all I could hear was bass. I couldn't listen to them at all and had buyers remorse. I put my Sansa Clip on random and left them 4 hours. At this point they were sounding a bit better, but I could hear occasional cracking from the left ear piece. I listened to them with a lot of the trance tracks mentioned on this thread, and found them lacking mids and highs compared to my q-jays and momoprice. I connected them to my android phone and used a burn in app and played pink noise for 40 hours. At this stage they started to sound the business. Trance now sounded good (better than my q-jays) and I reverted to my normal music. The Eagles, Eminem, Carpenters, Dusty Springfield, Adele, 80s stuff.

I found vocal depth that had always been missing with the q-jays, conveying more emotion. I've always found "Chasing Pav ements" to be so sharp and harsh on the ears that I can't listen to it. With the Xears I finally can stand to listen to it all the way through.

10cc I'm not in love has such a wide airy presentation on any decent set. The soundstage is wider on the Xears than mh1c. The bass is more driving. The vocals have more air. This is a track that the mh1c annoys me on with some of the highs. It's almost like someone is releasing a spurt of compressed air in your ear. The Xears highs are similarly clear without the unwelcome physical impact.

I settled on the foam tip, with a not too deep insertion.

Every time Mochill makes a comment about the V2's it probably describes how I feel about the Xears better than I can!

 

[daveyostrow]

which Xears are we referring to?
 
Edit: i see now, Xears 4core. the coolcore look-alike.

 

[glorfybe]

which Xears are we referring to?

4core hybrid dual dynamics

 

[quartertone]

Don't know why they label them 'hybrids'... Xears promo always comes across as pretty clueless.

 

[glorfybe]

Yeah, where's the BA? Woofer tweeter concept isn't a hybrid