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Sep 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM Post #13,966 of 100,783
  I did. Skillet is more alternative than metal and in that matter Linkin Park is too.

 
And I say they are Alternative Metal which is still metal. 
   
... and you are right. Anyone who thinks Skillet and Linkin Park are metal, really needs to be educated on what good metal is.
 
Start here:
Meshuggah

 
Obviously you'll not be the one to educate me on this subject. 
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM Post #13,967 of 100,783
   
And I say they are Alternative Metal which is still metal. 
 

Nah, that's not alternative metal by any means - it's not just the music, it's the vocals, which root more from post-punk and progressive. Now, Linkin Park can be called alternative metal because of Mike Shinoda's rapping but most of their songs are more alternative rock than metal.
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM Post #13,968 of 100,783
Linkin Park's earlier works were categorized as numetal. They've somehow evolved and matured after the 2nd album.
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 3:25 PM Post #13,969 of 100,783
Linkin Park's earlier works were categorized as numetal. They've somehow evolved and matured after the 2nd album.

 
Yeah, their earlier stuff was more something I would call alternative metal or numetal. I wouldn't say their new stuff is more mature - they just went in a bit different direction and I guess it comes down to personal preference whether you like it more or not, so evolved is a bit far-fetched as it suggests they've improved for the better, which I don't exactly agree with. 
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 3:34 PM Post #13,970 of 100,783
I agree that it's all about preference. Personally I like their new material, that's why I considered them to have evolved. It's great to hear bands that change their sound as they mature. I couldn't imagine metallica doing another master of puppets coz that will degrade that classic metal album's legacy.
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM Post #13,972 of 100,783
There is a thread about metal and music.

 
Nah, we're just discovering new music and genres. 
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Sep 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM Post #13,973 of 100,783
  Yeah they are really great tips, very similar to stock JVC tips but the bore is even wider and a lot more soft. Great comfort.
 
For people that are interested you can search them up under Samsung Galaxy S II earphone or similar terms, these can be had on ebay for around $3-$5 shipped.  I am sure others can even find cheaper prices. :)
 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X++Samsung+Galaxy+S+II+earphone&_nkw=++Samsung+Galaxy+S+II+earphone&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Headphone-Handsfree-EHS44ASSBE-GH59-10443B/dp/B005FUNYV2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1378658591&sr=8-6&keywords=Samsung+Galaxy+S+II+earphone
 
Oh and there are these unique IEM/ tips that comes with the Nokia 5530 XpressMusic phone as well.  If you own the M200s, you will notice that these are almost exactly like the largest set of stock tips, but the difference is that they are slightly smaller and is softer as well. These should be perfect for people with medium large ears like Ds and Danny. Great fit and seal as well.  Can be hand for like $2 on ebay. :) 

 
Those Nokia tips look nearly identical to one of the pairs of the tips that come with the RE-400/600. I can vouch that they work well on the M200 as well, but aren't too different in fit and sound from the stock tips for me.
 
P.S. For those that are going to be getting the Samsung headset for the tips, make sure that if you want all 3 sizes of tips you buy from a seller who includes them (like this for example). It seems most of the auctions and sellers I've found are selling the headset with only one tip size (presumably medium).
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 5:18 PM Post #13,974 of 100,783
   
Those Nokia tips look nearly identical to one of the pairs of the tips that come with the RE-400/600. I can vouch that they work well on the M200 as well, but aren't too different in fit and sound from the stock tips for me.
 
P.S. For those that are going to be getting the Samsung headset for the tips, make sure that if you want all 3 sizes of tips you buy from a seller who includes them (like this for example). It seems most of the auctions and sellers I've found are selling the headset with only one tip size (presumably medium).

^ On sweet nice find, the medium works best for me anyways but yeah best to buy from a seller that would include all 3 sets of tips for the Samsung iem.
 
I might need to ask a friend to see if he still have these Samsung iems as well, cuz he also owns a galaxy SII. If he does i might cut down the sleeves so it's shorter and would fit flat with the nozzle exactly as the stock medium tips does. Fingers crossed!!!
 
Yeppp those Nokia tips are very wide bore and fits perfect for these M200s, but it's a bit too big for me. For ~$1.50 shipped it doesn't hurt to get a set to see.
 
@ Danny i can send you my largest set of Samsung and these Nokia tips if you want to try it out. They both are a bit too large for me cuz medium gives me the best fit/ seal. Want to see how it fits you so others like Ds that have fit problems might be in luck. Let me know. :)
 
@ ALL the metal freaks, Linkin Park sucks now!!!
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Their early works were pretty good but now it's so meh to me at least. Surprised that they are still considered relevant. : P
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 5:28 PM Post #13,975 of 100,783
  I might need to ask a friend to see if he still have these Samsung iems as well, cuz he also owns a galaxy SII. If he does i might cut down the sleeves so it's shorter and would fit flat with the nozzle exactly as the stock medium tips does. Fingers crossed!!!

 
When you say "fit flat with the nozzle", do you mean the ends of your stock tips don't extend beyond the nozzle at all? Or are the Samsung tips not fitting the nozzle as tightly near the ends?
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 5:36 PM Post #13,976 of 100,783
   
When you say "fit flat with the nozzle", do you mean your stock tips don't extend beyond the nozzle at all?

Yeppp, the medium stock tips on my M200s exactly on the same level as the surface of the nozzle and the tips sits completely flat, same goes for the smallest tip set. Only the massive large tips extend beyond the nozzle like most other IEM do. I was surprised by this as well. Are my stock tips messed up or something??? LoL Cuz judging from you tone/ reply yours extend beyond the nozzle it seems.
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The Samsung iem tips extends beyond it but it gives these crazy massive sub bass, which is why i want to get another set and cut down the sleeves so it will sit completely flat with the nozzle as my stock medium tips do for me. These M200s are weird meng to say the least, or maybe my stock tips are just Fffed up.
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Sep 8, 2013 at 5:42 PM Post #13,977 of 100,783
I don't know if your tips or my tips are defective, but all sizes of my stock tips extend beyond the nozzle pretty similarly to this picture:
 
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It may just be that you are pushing the tips further down than they are designed to be (or they're being pushed down upon insertion). If you prefer the sound that way (less bass?), and it's comfortable enough for you, then so be it. :)
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 8:37 PM Post #13,978 of 100,783
^ Welp i'll up some pics later on, but the medium/ smallest tips goes beyond ever so slightly beyond the nozzle, maybe 1/3 of that pic. It's almost dead flat to the metal nozzle.
 
It's properly inserted cuz there is a hard plastic ring on the nozzle that stops them from going too deep, so the stock tips doesn't go back beyond that point, ..... there is no way to push it anymore back even if i wanted to.
 
Will see what's up.....
 
Sep 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM Post #13,980 of 100,783




Large, medium, small.

Do you hear the tip make a clicking sound when its on all the way?

^ Welp judging by that, the stock tips on my set are for sure messed up. The Samsung/ Nokia tips fit exactly like your pictures Danny but not the stock ones. This is strange for sure, hmmmmmmmm.
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Thanks for the pics!!! Will take some pics of my set with the stock tips later on.  
 
P.S. Only the largest stock tips looks the same from my sets. Strange indeed.................... 
 
P.P.S. Yeppp when i get a perfect seal/ best sound i get a clicking sound when i press the housing of the iem against my ears. That might indicate slight driver flex but it also tells me i got a great fit as well. If that is indeed driver flex it is very minimal and does not affect the sound whatsoever unlike the Zero Audio Bassos.
 

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